Turkey Talk for 2014

[rjoschko]

I wish you much luck

 

[Quailsong]

Maple and her poults out for an afternoon stroll! She was not raised here & had been somewhat nervous around us , but she even brought them up on the deck last week!They sat out there preening and flying up onto the deck railing like they were kids at a playground! I ♡ my turkeys!

What a dreamy picture. Thank you for sharing that with us, WW.

 

[Wasson6Pack]

I believe that I have finally rid myself of black head and have 1 turkey left to show for it. Now what to do as a preventative?

Is a chicken de wormer preventative similar or do I have to treat them separate?

 

[Penny Hen]

Someone on this thread back in the Spring was looking for Oregon Grey eggs. I just spotted some on Ebay.

 

[chickadoodles]

I believe that I have finally rid myself of black head and have 1 turkey left to show for it. Now what to do as a preventative?

Is a chicken de wormer preventative similar or do I have to treat them separate?

I believe if you have blackhead in your soil it will always be there. There are judges for the APA that have posted that they cannot have turkey because they have blackhead and their turkey won't live on their property. I do not believe there is a preventative. If you kept them on a concrete slab that might do it.

Edited to add you should probably check with a vet to make sure. Sorry

 

[BullChick]

W6p, another idea (besides the cement slab) is filling a run about six inches deep with gravel or sand. Though any bugs eaten may put them in danger.

 

[casportpony]

I believe that I have finally rid myself of black head and have 1 turkey left to show for it. Now what to do as a preventative?

Is a chicken de wormer preventative similar or do I have to treat them separate?

Maybe this:

http://www.drugs.com/vet/histostat-50.html
Histostat 50

This page contains information on Histostat 50 for veterinary use.
The information provided typically includes the following:

• Histostat 50 Indications
• Warnings and cautions for Histostat 50
• Direction and dosage information for Histostat 50

Histostat 50

This treatment applies to the following species:

• Chickens
• Turkeys

Manufacturer: Zoetis
Nitarsone
Type A Medicated Article
An aid in the prevention of blackhead in turkeys and chickens
Must be mixed thoroughly in feed before use
Active Ingredient

Nitarsone (4-nitrophenylarsonic acid)

50%​

(equivalent to 226.8 grams nitarsone per pound of product)
in a carrier suitable for incorporation in feed.
Dosages And Directions

Turkeys:
Mix in feed so that 2,000 lbs (909 kg) of complete ration contain 12 oz. (340.2 g) of Histostat 50 equivalent to 0.01875% nitarsone. Start Histostat 50 medication depending on such factors as record of blackhead occurrence on the farm or in the area; climate and weather; and soil or litter condition. Continue as long as prevention is desired.
Chickens:
Mix in feed so that 2,000 lbs (909 kg) of complete ration contain 12 oz. (340.2 g) of Histostat 50 equivalent to 0.01875% nitarsone. Give continuously for at least 3 weeks during periods of stress. Long-term medication is not necessary for chickens because of their natural resistance except at times of undue stress. Reduced feed consumption, onset of production, and errors in management may produce stresses which lower the resistance of chickens to blackhead.
Mixing directions:
To secure an even distribution, mix Histostat 50 with a small amount of feed ingredients, then add the remainder of the ingredients and mix thoroughly.
Precautions

Early medication is essential to prevent spread of the disease. Adequate drinking water must be provided near feeders at all times. The drug is not effective in preventing blackhead in birds infected more than 4 or 5 days. Symptoms of blackhead do not appear until 10 to 15 days after birds become infected.
Histostat 50 Caution

Use as the sole source of arsenic.

Warning

Keep out of reach of children. Overdosage or lack of water may result in leg weakness or paralysis. Discontinue use 5 days before slaughtering for human consumption to allow for elimination of the drug from edible tissue. In mixing, avoid inhaling dust. Avoid contact of product with skin, eyes and clothing. Wash thoroughly after handling. Dangerous for ducks, geese and dogs.

Poison
Arsenic
Antidote

If swallowed, call a physician, poison control center, or hospital immediately. Induce vomiting by giving Ipecac Syrup as directed.
Restricted Drug (California) - Use only as directed. Not for human use.
NADA 7-616, Approved by FDA
Marketed by Alpharma Inc., Bridgewater, New Jersey 08807
Trademarks registered by Alpharma Inc.

Net wt



50 LB (22.68 kg)

560310 0908​

NAC No.: 10220405
ZOETIS INC.
333 PORTAGE STREET, KALAMAZOO, MI, 49007

Telephone: 269-833-4000
Customer Service: 800-733-5500 and 800-793-0596
Veterinary Medical Investigations & Product Support: 800-366-5288
Technical Services (USA): 800-366-5288
Website: www.zoetis.com

 

[gevshiba]

I'm still having problems with one of my poults. Since feeding them alfalfa, everyone has been doing great, except one. He perked up for a couple days, then I think he might have choked on some feed. He vomited up some fluid and was having trouble breathing, so I tipped him over and he vomited up quite a bit more. He was having, what I think of as seizers, so I put him in a crate by himself. After awhile, he seemed fine, so I put him back with the others. Then last week, I found him laying in a corner, unresponsive. His legs were going stiff and he was gasping. I figured that was the end. I put him in the crate, but he had sand in his beak, so I washed it out. He swallowed a few drops of water. Since he seemed cold, I put a heating pad under the crate. When he was still alive an hour later, I gave him some FF fluid. Over the next few hours, I'd drop more water, FF fluid or (why not?) watermelon juice down him. He started coming around that evening. He even started eating. His crop had been completely empty when I found him, but I'd seen him eating at breakfast time. I'd found him about 1-2:00. The next day he seemed perfectly fine, so back with the others. Today I found him flipped on his back. He's back in the crate. He slept a long time and is awake now, but chilled. I have the heating pad on again. None of them seem sick. They run around all day. He does too, until he crashes. I'm moving them outside about the middle of next week. My hen and her chick have been in the grow out pen, so I didn't have anywhere they could go. Do you think it's too cold in my house? The AC was at 78, but I turned it to 77 because one of my dogs carries a thick coat and he's always hot. I still have heat on them and they do go under it. Our temps are in the upper 90's and into the 100's. I'm worried it might be a real shock to go from 70's to 100's.

I do realize this poult will likely need culled and I should have done it last week. But...

 

[chickadoodles]

I'm still having problems with one of my poults. Since feeding them alfalfa, everyone has been doing great, except one. He perked up for a couple days, then I think he might have choked on some feed. He vomited up some fluid and was having trouble breathing, so I tipped him over and he vomited up quite a bit more. He was having, what I think of as seizers, so I put him in a crate by himself. After awhile, he seemed fine, so I put him back with the others. Then last week, I found him laying in a corner, unresponsive. His legs were going stiff and he was gasping. I figured that was the end. I put him in the crate, but he had sand in his beak, so I washed it out. He swallowed a few drops of water. Since he seemed cold, I put a heating pad under the crate. When he was still alive an hour later, I gave him some FF fluid. Over the next few hours, I'd drop more water, FF fluid or (why not?) watermelon juice down him. He started coming around that evening. He even started eating. His crop had been completely empty when I found him, but I'd seen him eating at breakfast time. I'd found him about 1-2:00. The next day he seemed perfectly fine, so back with the others. Today I found him flipped on his back. He's back in the crate. He slept a long time and is awake now, but chilled. I have the heating pad on again. None of them seem sick. They run around all day. He does too, until he crashes. I'm moving them outside about the middle of next week. My hen and her chick have been in the grow out pen, so I didn't have anywhere they could go. Do you think it's too cold in my house? The AC was at 78, but I turned it to 77 because one of my dogs carries a thick coat and he's always hot. I still have heat on them and they do go under it. Our temps are in the upper 90's and into the 100's. I'm worried it might be a real shock to go from 70's to 100's.

I do realize this poult will likely need culled and I should have done it last week. But...

I am certianly no expert on turkey. But here in my house I had mine in a 30 gal. tote that came with a lid, I had to keep the lid partly over the tub or the poults would cry as they would get to cold.with the ac on. They have to stay warm till they completely feather out. I do not put my poults on the ground till they are 2 months old at they are more tender and get sick and die faster than chicks. Try getting some electrolites and mix it in the water for a couple days. I had one poult that ate the pine shavings in the brooder and he nearly died. I had to keep dripping water in him to soften it up so he could pass it thru. Try not giving him any solid food for a couple days and only soft stuff like scrambled eggs and yogurt. I hope he makes it and I know they will worry you to death.

 

[Quailsong]

I'm still having problems with one of my poults. Since feeding them alfalfa, everyone has been doing great, except one. He perked up for a couple days, then I think he might have choked on some feed. He vomited up some fluid and was having trouble breathing, so I tipped him over and he vomited up quite a bit more. He was having, what I think of as seizers, so I put him in a crate by himself. After awhile, he seemed fine, so I put him back with the others. Then last week, I found him laying in a corner, unresponsive. His legs were going stiff and he was gasping. I figured that was the end. I put him in the crate, but he had sand in his beak, so I washed it out. He swallowed a few drops of water. Since he seemed cold, I put a heating pad under the crate. When he was still alive an hour later, I gave him some FF fluid. Over the next few hours, I'd drop more water, FF fluid or (why not?) watermelon juice down him. He started coming around that evening. He even started eating. His crop had been completely empty when I found him, but I'd seen him eating at breakfast time. I'd found him about 1-2:00. The next day he seemed perfectly fine, so back with the others. Today I found him flipped on his back. He's back in the crate. He slept a long time and is awake now, but chilled. I have the heating pad on again. None of them seem sick. They run around all day. He does too, until he crashes. I'm moving them outside about the middle of next week. My hen and her chick have been in the grow out pen, so I didn't have anywhere they could go. Do you think it's too cold in my house? The AC was at 78, but I turned it to 77 because one of my dogs carries a thick coat and he's always hot. I still have heat on them and they do go under it. Our temps are in the upper 90's and into the 100's. I'm worried it might be a real shock to go from 70's to 100's.

I do realize this poult will likely need culled and I should have done it last week. But...

Give him some brewers yeast (niacin) & some carrot juice (vitamin A). See if that helps.