UGLY PROLAPSE - HELP!

[BigBlueHen53]

I'm sorry you're having such a tough time with this bird, but at least it doesn't sound as if she's suffering terribly and that's a mercy.

 

[MaeM]

I'm sorry you're having such a tough time with this bird, but at least it doesn't sound as if she's suffering terribly and that's a mercy.

Thank you.

And thank God that no, she isn't suffering like one would imagine that a hen with a prolapse + salpingitis would be suffering.

I still can't believe that she sunbathed her stitched ass while I was crying the hell out of myself.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

She's blessed to have someone who loves her as much as you do.

 

[azygous]

Salpingitis is very difficult to cure, nearly impossible unless it's caught in the first couple months. But it's not apparent until it's gotten to the point where it's been going on long enough that the pus material is beginning to slough off the walls of the oviduct. By then it's probably too late. The good news is hens can live a long time with it. However, it will make her sterile.

Chickens are a lot more stoic about pain than humans are. They feel pain, all right, but they seem to be able to compartmentalize it and not let it panic them. For pain to slow a chicken down, it's usually acute pain.

 

[MaeM]

Salpingitis is very difficult to cure, nearly impossible unless it's caught in the first couple months. But it's not apparent until it's gotten to the point where it's been going on long enough that the pus material is beginning to slough off the walls of the oviduct. By then it's probably too late. The good news is hens can live a long time with it. However, it will make her sterile.

Chickens are a lot more stoic about pain than humans are. They feel pain, all right, but they seem to be able to compartmentalize it and not let it panic them. For pain to slow a chicken down, it's usually acute pain.

Are there any other reasons why the oviduct looked inflammed in the ultrasound? I mean, she had a super prolapse + lash egg. How do we know it is salpingitis and not an inflammation due to all that's happened to that hen?

There's a team of 3 vets working on her, this is only one vet's diagnosis, will wait for the other two's opinion... But if it is salpingitis, how long can she live? She is about to turn 3.

I also don't know if we caught it early or not. I have a feeling that we started medicating her on time, because she was never inactive except for the day after the surgery (when the vet said she was in pain) and the day where she had to release that lash egg (turned to normal after she released it).

Is there any way to know if we caught it early or not? Or if this is the reason behind her prolapse, does this mean it's too late?

I don't mind about the sterility part. It would actually be good news after the prolapse she had. I prefer her company over her eggs.

 

[azygous]

The lash "egg" which isn't an egg at all, is pus from salpingitis infection, so we know she has salpingitis from the pus (lash material) being shed. I would definitely treat with an antibiotic as there's always a chance it can help.

 

[MaeM]

The lash "egg" which isn't an egg at all, is pus from salpingitis infection, so we know she has salpingitis from the pus (lash material) being shed. I would definitely treat with an antibiotic as there's always a chance it can help.

Well, she was prescribed Enrofloxacin for 15 days even before the lash egg and the ultrasound. Will that do?

 

[Eggcessive]

Well, she was prescribed Enrofloxacin for 15 days even before the lash egg and the ultrasound. Will that do?

I would stop at that. Too many antibiotics may really mess up her beneficial gut bacteria. Probiotics for a week or so might be helpful. Salpingitis is not a curable disease, but hopefully, the antibiotics will help to prolong her life. The best thing for her would be that she would stop laying altogether. But they may continue to lay internally. If chickens were worth a lot of money, there would probably be a lot more research done on this. Most of us never know what has been going on inside our hens until after death. I usually do a necropsy to look for common problems, including reproductive problems. I hope she gets better.

 

[azygous]

It helps to understand the role of pus in a warm blooded organism when bacteria is present in the living tissues. Leukocytes (white blood cells) in the blood team up to attack and isolate the invasive bacteria, and pus forms and surrounds the bacteria. If all goes well, the pus will expel the bacteria and give the body a better chance to overwhelm the bacteria.

The fact that the pus is still being sloughed off after the round of Enrofloxin may tell us that the bacteria is still there with the potential to keep on causing trouble. Talk to your vet about the possibility of continuing with another antibiotic for a while longer on the remote chance that the bacteria might be eliminated. This would give the hen a chance for continued quality of life, though it wouldn't affect damage already done to the reproductive system.

 

[MaeM]

Well, I haven't finished the Enrofloxacin treatment yet. She started on Monday after the surgery, when all we knew was that she had a prolapse.

She released necrotic tissue after that - the vet said that she had formed necrotic tissue between the oviduct and the rectum.

She released the lash egg two days later. Perhaps the Enro helped expel it?

Yesterday, one of her vets did the ultrasound and her internal organs looked clear. But her oviduct looked inflammed and that's when the word salpingitis came out.

I guess the vet tried to cheer me up because he immediately said: well this may leave her sterile, which would be good for the prolapse.

He didn't say that she wasn't likely to recover.