Unacceptable Guest Dog

I too have lost birds to a neighbor dog and size dose not matter.

I use to rent a place in the suburbs and had a small flock. One day I found a hen dead, feathers tossed, pin holes in the body. Later on I saw my neighbors chihuahua in my yard. Tried to catch him but he was one of those jerk dogs that get into your yard and has the nerve to bark aggressively at you. Turns out he was getting in though a small hole in the fence. I thought nah he is too small to kill a chicken. I changed my mind when I come out one day to clucky chaos. That little ankle biter had a hen pined down and was viciously attacking her. I got him off in time thank goodness. We fixed the hole in the fence.

A couple weeks later I go on a fishing trip. I get a call from my mom that 2 hens are dead and the little rat dog is in the yard again. Went to confront the owners. There was a language barrier but the man told me that his dog was too small to kill a chicken. Ok here comes the twist................ Talked to his daughter a couple days later. She told me that they use to have chickens but they had to get rid of them because the dog kept killing them! A couple weeks later the dog was gone and they got another one.
 
I too have lost birds to a neighbor dog and size dose not matter.

I use to rent a place in the suburbs and had a small flock. One day I found a hen dead, feathers tossed, pin holes in the body. Later on I saw my neighbors chihuahua in my yard. Tried to catch him but he was one of those jerk dogs that get into your yard and has the nerve to bark aggressively at you. Turns out he was getting in though a small hole in the fence. I thought nah he is too small to kill a chicken. I changed my mind when I come out one day to clucky chaos. That little ankle biter had a hen pined down and was viciously attacking her. I got him off in time thank goodness. We fixed the hole in the fence.

A couple weeks later I go on a fishing trip. I get a call from my mom that 2 hens are dead and the little rat dog is in the yard again. Went to confront the owners. There was a language barrier but the man told me that his dog was too small to kill a chicken. Ok here comes the twist................ Talked to his daughter a couple days later. She told me that they use to have chickens but they had to get rid of them because the dog kept killing them! A couple weeks later the dog was gone and they got another one.
First off I admire your description of the dog. I personally do not like those kind for all the reasons you have stated. My neighbor who claims she’s not responsible for her dog is exactly that dog. Barks at me in my yard when he tries to go after the chickens who are minding their own business. And can never catch him because you can’t get close enough to nab his butt. I hate that you lost your beloved girls and that is my fear that one day when they are in the yard (front yard is not fenced in only back), one of those two dogs will get to them before I do.
 
I too have lost birds to a neighbor dog and size dose not matter.

I use to rent a place in the suburbs and had a small flock. One day I found a hen dead, feathers tossed, pin holes in the body. Later on I saw my neighbors chihuahua in my yard. Tried to catch him but he was one of those jerk dogs that get into your yard and has the nerve to bark aggressively at you. Turns out he was getting in though a small hole in the fence. I thought nah he is too small to kill a chicken. I changed my mind when I come out one day to clucky chaos. That little ankle biter had a hen pined down and was viciously attacking her. I got him off in time thank goodness. We fixed the hole in the fence.

A couple weeks later I go on a fishing trip. I get a call from my mom that 2 hens are dead and the little rat dog is in the yard again. Went to confront the owners. There was a language barrier but the man told me that his dog was too small to kill a chicken. Ok here comes the twist................ Talked to his daughter a couple days later. She told me that they use to have chickens but they had to get rid of them because the dog kept killing them! A couple weeks later the dog was gone and they got another one.
That's horrible! I'm so sorry about the loss of your chickens.

And I hate that they got rid of the dog and got another one! The same thing will happen I'm sure. They get a cute puppy and don't train it, then it grows up and 'is no longer cute' and is untrained! Then they replace it and it started over again!
They should have just gotten the dog trained. It takes time but it's their responsibility to do that.
 
Training can sometimes only go so far, though -- it's like teaching someone something; some people just never learn, or they learn and then forget. :idunno
But, yes, I would try training a dog before getting rid of it, assuming that I had the time to do so.
 
Training can sometimes only go so far, though -- it's like teaching someone something; some people just never learn, or they learn and then forget. :idunno
But, yes, I would try training a dog before getting rid of it, assuming that I had the time to do so.
There's a channel on YouTube called ''It's me or the dog" where this lady trains dogs with bad behavioral issues. It's amazing how quickly the dogs learn. And she doesn't use shock collars, prongs, spray bottles, or harsh punishment.
Training the dogs are easy, its training the owners that's hard.
 
It's not about our relationship but she is my future mother in law. My fiancee has also asked her not to bring the dog over. She also frequently comes over unannounced and uninvited. Sometimes she will give us a heads up that she is coming by...but usually after she is already on her way. We have both asked her NOT to do this and she does it anyway.
Look. I don’t want to get into an argument with you about relationships and all that but I’m 52 years old and I’ve been around the block a time or two and worked with the public many years. This situation is not necessarily about the bad behavior in the dog. It’s the disrespectfulness in the people. Your future MIL and FIL sound like they have no respect for you or your fiancé or your wishes. They want to be in charge all the time and they are going to do it right now with this unruly dog. Next it will be something else that suits them. You just wait and see. I don’t have anything to gain or lose by arguing with you or trying to prove a point here. This is advice to help you. You better either get out now or you both better move as far away from them as possible. Or you better prove your point now in a mighty way and shoot the dang dog the next time she brings it over unannounced and unbehaved and it destroys a piece of your property. If you don’t you will have heck to pay the rest of your married life with them as in-laws. You can take that to the bank.
 
In March, my neighbors husky came i to my fenced yard and killed 3 of my Silkies within minutes. Just had fun murdering them. I told the owner I’m within my legal rights to shoot to kill if that dog sets foot on my property again. I asked him for $300 and he complied. But I returned the check, considering no one was working due to covid and he has kids. Last week, said husky was in my yard again and bolted when I said his name. Luckily it was nighttime and all chickens were safely locked up.

i have a Great Dane and a Saint Bernard who are bullet proof around the chickens. My rat terrier is ALWAYS leashed outside. She’s a bit too interested and still young. It’s all about responsible animal husbandry.
Oh man! You are definitely courting with danger there. I am truly in awe that you gave the check back and he should be too. They was very more than kind of you. That husky is using up his nine lives quick and they have them being more like cats than dogs as hunters of stealth. I had one once and I emphasize ONCE. Not ever again. They are hard headed as bastard cats excuse my French and car sense they have none. He save our butts one time though and I will give him credit where credit is due on that. We were walking one afternoon. We lived out in a rural area at the time. I had the husky about four at the time on leash and my two year old Golden Retriever who was massive at about 90 pounds and our pit and yellow lab mix who was the neighborhood roving Romeo. He weighed in about 45 pounds. He was always too “busy” to keep a good weight that was extra in him any. So we are walking not too far from our house because the husky would absolutely wear me out pulling and that was with a harness on him and me at times and the other two were off leash. We had turned back and a family had moved out of this kind of old dumpy house trailer combo thing about a half mile down the road from ya and when they did they abandoned their big dogs which were a Great Dane and a big black lab which I think had Dane in him because he was much taller than the average lab. Huge lab. So they saw us and here they come because they were always coming down into our yard looking for food and to fight with our one smaller dog the bit and we keep our Golden in the house or back porch or in with the husky some who had a huge fenced in area sometimes. So they could play. But they saw that Hunter the husky was out and accessible to them for the first time and the all three were able to fight with them and I’m freaking out cause I know they are hungry too. No telling when they had eaten last. So here they come. Well my two off leash dogs take off like bullets for home. They leave me and Hunter by ourselves and don’t look back. I didn’t have a stick or staff like usual or nothing since I had had all three dogs. Never again. But I turned him loose and I just started walking and he stayed right by me and when they got close to fight he turned around and hit both of them so hard one in the head and one on the back leg that they were Yelping and limping back to that house and I just picked up the leash and he stayed right by me all the way home like he did it everyday. However, my dog was a killer of anything small, raccoons, possums, armadillos, squirrels, cats, dogs smaller than him did not have a chance if they came into our yard he would run them down. If we did not get to them before him they were seriously harmed or he would snap their necks. He was silent and deadly on the rodents that went into his pen after his dog food. He just laid their really quiet , and then when they were turned the other way eating he would just walk over their on those quiet wolf like snow shoe feet and snap their necks before they new what was In there with them. Husky’s have such high prey drive that if they see it they want to kill it. It’s not anything to do with hunger at all. It’s not because they are mean dogs either. It’s just instinctively in them to do it. They cannot help it and you cannot beat it out of them and nor should you try or discipline them for it. They are not bad. They should just not be out in those situations. Your neighbor should not have gotten that kind of dog at all. Let me guess. You live somewhere like Florida also and the husky also burns up every year. They aren’t meant to live in the lower 48 either. I live in Mississippi. That tells you how bright I was at the time. Had to have home shaved and blown out about four times a year so he wouldn’t swelter. He passed away because I went on vacation and asked a family member to feed him and a swarm of seed ticks came in. This was before we had Nexguard pills also. In 1993’ and they got in him. Then he laid in the August sun and got heat stroke. Well this person was afraid of him. Though he should not have been. Idiot. And never moved him and he had a stroke and then the anemia. I nursed him for about three weeks after that until one day when I came home for lunch and I was also pregnant for the third time - hoping it would be a successor pregnancy I had had two that so far had not been. Then he decided to bite me. Sooo he still had those dang ticks everywhere. I kept getting them on me and he wasn’t improving and he kept biting so we had to put him down. I cried all weekend. I still cry. I will never have another Husky. They are beautiful but need to be in a cold climate with jobs and that is pulling not killing or they can hunt be hunting dogs. They are good at that too. They do not belong in the lower 48. They need a specific controlled environment.
 
Look. I don’t want to get into an argument with you about relationships and all that but I’m 52 years old and I’ve been around the block a time or two and worked with the public many years. This situation is not necessarily about the bad behavior in the dog. It’s the disrespectfulness in the people. Your future MIL and FIL sound like they have no respect for you or your fiancé or your wishes. They want to be in charge all the time and they are going to do it right now with this unruly dog. Next it will be something else that suits them. You just wait and see. I don’t have anything to gain or lose by arguing with you or trying to prove a point here. This is advice to help you. You better either get out now or you both better move as far away from them as possible. Or you better prove your point now in a mighty way and shoot the dang dog the next time she brings it over unannounced and unbehaved and it destroys a piece of your property. If you don’t you will have heck to pay the rest of your married life with them as in-laws. You can take that to the bank.
Actually we might be lucking out on that fact. Word is they're buying an RV and they also plan to downsize their home so they might be moving. I definately appreciate your advice on this and you are correct. I know she doesn't respect us. Its her way or the highway. Shes gotten into an arguement with my fiancee because he was working on a project at our house and didnt want to come over to their house to help them with something. He eventually caved, dropped over there and spent HOURS over there helping them remodel their kitchen. Needless to say that our project got thrown by the wayside. Ever since then we talked about stricter boundaries and how he has to not cave on stuff. He initially argued citing "honor thy father and mother" and respecting his elders but I countered that if they have no respect for him then they arent "loving thy neighbor as thyself". He loves his parents but it's taken him a while to see what I see them doing. It's really unfair because they have such a wonderful son but they have no respect for him:hmm
 
Actually we might be lucking out on that fact. Word is they're buying an RV and they also plan to downsize their home so they might be moving. I definately appreciate your advice on this and you are correct. I know she doesn't respect us. Its her way or the highway. Shes gotten into an arguement with my fiancee because he was working on a project at our house and didnt want to come over to their house to help them with something. He eventually caved, dropped over there and spent HOURS over there helping them remodel their kitchen. Needless to say that our project got thrown by the wayside. Ever since then we talked about stricter boundaries and how he has to not cave on stuff. He initially argued citing "honor thy father and mother" and respecting his elders but I countered that if they have no respect for him then they arent "loving thy neighbor as thyself". He loves his parents but it's taken him a while to see what I see them doing. It's really unfair because they have such a wonderful son but they have no respect for him:hmm
You are in a really bad situation. It sounds like they managed to raise a great son who is going to be a great husband for you. I don’t understand folks like them but I have seen a lot of them and I don’t like their ways. Just be ever so careful and never let them live with you or you find yourself living with them. Never. I’m telling you it will be all their control of you. Do not allow that to ever a happen. You may find yourself dead. I am not kidding. They sound that way. I wish you the best and hope your wedding and marriage goes superb. Best of luck to you my dear and please take care of yourself!!
 

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