Unemployment almost 10% nationally

[rufus]

Unemployment insurance was intended as a stop gap assistance to help people until they can find a job. It was meant to be temporary. Unfortunately, now it seems as if people are not able to find jobs. Continuing the system is like giving CPR to a dead man.

We need to fix the problem. As it is, those jobs are never coming back. The unions have made it too expensive to manufacture anything in this country. Making it worse, the government and politicians have created a climate where anyone with any capital at all is investing abroad. No one in their right mind would start a business in this country now; they would be responsible for providing expensive health insurance to their employees and they would have to comply with a plethora of environmental and labor laws.

We cannot compete with China and India.

People rant and rave about "the corporations," but they are what produce the goods and services that we need. Poor people don't create jobs or produce products. Poor people consume, but don't produce. The village economy sounds romantic, but it is a recipe for poverty.

Who owns the corporations? Union pension funds, our mutual funds etc. We the people have a vested interest in keeping them alive and US owned. Sadly, a lot of ownership has shifted abroad. When a business is no long profitable to operate in the US, it goes on the block and is sold off.

Foreign investors don't buy businesses to deal with truculent unions and oppressive government regulations in this country. No, they move those factories to their own countries taking the jobs with them. The product seems the same and still has an "American" sounding name, but it is made abroad and the ownership is abroad.

Our society tried to provide a decent life style to everyone, whether they deserved it or not, and that is what broke us. We cared too much.

Rufus

 

[poltroon]

I personally would rather see money allocated to working on infrastructure (ie, stimulus type funds) as much as possible. Better to pay companies and people for doing work that needs doing than to spend so much on unemployment benefits.

Every country we compete with manages health insurance.

We can compete with China and India. There are good people there who are learning each day, but they don't know our customers the way we do. They can't visit our customers the way we can. As their standard of living comes up, their labor will be as expensive as ours, and they will be serving needs in their local countries. As fuel prices rise, shipping goods across the world will be less financially attractive.

 

[Dunkopf]

Actually most corporations are still owned locally. They just moved their home offices abroad. That way they could avoid taxes. Bringing back tariffs would solve a lot of problems. If a company wants to move offshore, fine. Pay a hefty tariff if they want to sell their product here. Same with producing their goods overseas.

Unions did make it more expensive and cut down on corporate profits. They also made it so that workers could have a living wage. They are the reason we get a 40 hour work week instead of 60 and get paid OT. At least if you are hourly. It's funny how around 40% of middle class jobs were Union just 40 years ago. The highest wage earners paid 70% in taxes over a threshold. It resulted in the higher earners rolling their earnings back in to their companies and America grew and prospered. Then along came Ronnie. He lowered taxes and tariffs and got the ball rolling.He also set out to bust Unions. 40 years later we are hanging on by our fingernails.

You are right about one thing though. Them jobs aren't coming back.

JMO BTW

 

[deerman]

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Well the down turn started 4 years ago when , the congress changed.....they started the depression. Now its time to give it back to the other party again to get the country back on track. Also thats when all the tax and spend took a bigger way. Congress runs this country not the President. Think who has been in control of congress........good time ahead

 

[sourland]

deerman, I surely hope that you are right, but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[deerman]

We the People are the cause of losing jobs to oversea.

the trend started years ago when we stop buying things made in the USA. Yes even GM cars and trucks are made overseas, but you can still only buy those made here ,if you check vend #.

If we stop buying the produce made oversea and try to buy America made....jobs would return. Trouble people don't care where things are made these days. Have seen many unsafe thing made if China being bought here ...why its cheaper.

 

[Organics North]

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Well the down turn started 4 years ago when , the congress changed.....they started the depression. Now its time to give it back to the other party again to get the country back on track. Also thats when all the tax and spend took a bigger way. Congress runs this country not the President. Think who has been in control of congress........good time ahead

Yo ... THat sounds political to mee.. not for the chicken forum....

NO It is the last administration that caused the depression, how can you expect anyone to fix it in two year...

If you believe that garbage I have some ocean front property for you in Arizona real chep...

ON

 

[Organics North]

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ON

 

[deerman]

Quote:
Well the down turn started 4 years ago when , the congress changed.....they started the depression. Now its time to give it back to the other party again to get the country back on track. Also thats when all the tax and spend took a bigger way. Congress runs this country not the President. Think who has been in control of congress........good time ahead

Yo ... THat sounds political to mee.. not for the chicken forum....

NO It is the last administration that caused the depression, how can you expect anyone to fix it in two year...

If you believe that garbage I have some ocean front property for you in Arizona real chep...

ON

For your info , Dem. congress has been in control of this country for 4 year. worst for it also. Only think putting this administration in charge was to remove any checks and bal. Reason this country spends money like crazy....I believe congress and the president, should be different parties.

 

[EweSheep]

How did FDR handle this???????? Would his method work for us today? Probably not. He sure did put people to work! Now we need our president to put us to work, and the money we earned, would go into spending and goes back into the cycle again. JOBS JOBS JOBS are what we need right now!