Universal Health Care Passes House

[WalkingWolf]

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Personally I think it is un-Christian to steal from others. Anybody ever wonder WHY Pelosi is exempt from this new UHC plan? And the tax increases were reported by the libstream media.

 

[Goose and Fig]

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Personally I think it is un-Christian to steal from others. Anybody ever wonder WHY Pelosi is exempt from this new UHC plan? And the tax increases were reported by the libstream media.

Why would it be stealing? What is the problem with taxes? You don't want to pay taxes? Fine- then don't vote. Don't take your kids to school. Don't drive on a road that isn't dirt. Don't take your trash anywhere- just let it pile up. Don't expect the troops to protect you. Don't buy gas, food, or anything!

Can you imagine what a hell on earth this country would be if we didn't pay taxes?

BTW-almost everybody already got a tax CUT this year.

 

[I have WHAT in my yard?]

Think about this: many people are complaining about the people who abuse the social support systems. And they are right - people do abuse these systems. Sometimes.


But the entire country's welfare budget for last year could have been covered by taking only the bonuses being paid out to the top 15% of people at Goldman Sachs.

10 million dollars a year salary is $833,000.00 a MONTH.

Did you know when the American Bankers Association had their convention in Chicago they had a roaring 20s party? Ever hear of the term "let them eat cake"?

As long as they get you to fight with each other over what you think you worked hard for and don't want to share you'll never question why some have so incredibly much and they didn't work any harder than you did, but they got yours anyway. It is like people storming wall street and screaming "We hate you rich people and we know just what we're going to do to you - we're going to lower your taxes!"

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

 

[GrayDragon]

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I'm sorry, but this just is not true. There is no 'death panel'. It's just pure fear-mongering propaganda. Please, if you are going to criticize the bill, criticize the actual bill not a fantastical invention of the health insurance lobbyists.

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That's the true irony. We currently DO have 'death panels'. There currently ARE non-medically qualified health insurance officials whose sole job it is to approve care, and it is up to them, whose sole measure is profitability, to determine if you get care or if you are too expensive, in which case they drop you. Or deny you treatment. Or make you jump through absurd numbers of painful hoops to get the necessary treatment.

I knew I needed a c-section with my son. My health insurance still insisted I had to be induced first, and thus I suffered 48 hours of painful labor prior to getting the c-section both myself and my doctor knew I needed from the first.

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My grandfather, except for the pacemaker, isn't disabled. He needed a new one. Instead of providing a new one, his health insurance dropped him. And now since the pacemaker is a 'pre-existing condition', he can't get new health insurance and must rely on government programs for his needs.




Frankly, the health insurance system is currently so screwed up that by default, any change has to be for the better.

 

[Reinbeau]

I don't see this thread going anywhere good. Thank you all for participating.