unpopular chicken opinions??

[333113]

from my experience there’s plenty of “rescue” chicken websites, though they’re mostly in the UK. so it is possible. i think i said in my original post that a “chicken shelter” or any type of rescue would be out of the question, but i think (not sure) that the commercial laying places disposed of their birds through rescue programs. after two-three years when the birds slow down they usually euthanize and dump the birds, they don’t have enough meat to be considered up to standard for nuggets or such. in fact, the UK and some small places in the US proudly call themselves hen rescues. the issue isn’t whether or not it should be a thing, it is very much a thing, the real issue is that so many people just skip over the step of rehoming or rescue hens before getting chicks, because they don’t know it’s an option.

I live in Saint Louis County, Missouri. Here's our local chicken, duck, and all farm animals shelter, run by our local Humane Society:
https://longmeadowrescueranch.org/adopt/

 

[ackie]

okay I found the original post I read here

the gist is that the comb type and shell color are on the same chromosome so the two genes more often travel together. of course crossing over can occur so its not full-proof, but they can travel together just based on physical proximity to each other - rather than being completely independent of each other.

so if you start with a pea comb blue shell breed & a single comb white shell breed, the pea comb in offspring should correspond with blue shells more often than not.

if you start with a single comb blue shell breed & a pea comb white shell breed, the single combs will tend to indicate blue.

so it's not that you can look at a comb and tell what color it lays. but you can follow the progression of a gene through known generations with a better chance of being right than if it was entirely random.

I'm suddenly unsure about the single combs indicating blue in the second case. I dont think that's actually true.

Since single combs are recessive.

If a parent is blue& single that's BBpp
white&pea is bbPP

so you'd end up with BbPp for F1
which is blue and pea

and then in the next generation...
you'd have them pass on either bP or Bp

so

-------bP-------Bp
Bp. BbPp. BBpp
bP. bbPP. BbPp

so you'd either have pea combed blue egg layers... pea combed white egg layers or single combed blue egg layers

so yeah I don't think that one makes sense except that all the single combed would lay blue?

 

[333113]

I thought that was a popular opinion. And one that I agree with - the basics at least. There are some things that can be more difficult like determining what genes a bird has or what genes cause things and so on. They wouldn‘t need scientists studying it if it were easy to discover new genes and what not.

I think that the chicken genome was the first to be fully mapped. That doesn't mean we know all of the interactions between genes.

My favorite go-to for chicken genetics is the kippenjungle site:
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm

 

[EmmaRainboe]

I think that the chicken genome was the first to be fully mapped. That doesn't mean we know all of the interactions between genes.

My favorite go-to for chicken genetics is the kippenjungle site:
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm

I prefer this calculator from them.

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingCQ.html

 

[333113]

I don't like the people that insist on seeing every little part of your coop to consider selling you a rooster and want you to have a minimum of hens and no other males

My flock is in the National Poultry Improvement Program (NPIP). We practice serious biosecurity. The only person who looks at every part of my coop is the state inspector, and she is suited-up, including plastic booties.

It's not safe to allow someone with chickens to visit your flock. It's your decision, not theirs, to override safety protocol on your premises.

 

[333113]

I prefer this calculator from them.

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingCQ.html

There's a lot of good information on that site. I was first introduced to it by the interesting article Pyxis wrote on mallard duck colors.

 

[EmmaRainboe]

There's a lot of good information on that site. I was first introduced to it by the interesting article Pyxis wrote on mallard duck colors.

Yep, it’s amazing. I love it. I always find myself exploring through it.

 

[333113]

yeah but then you have a zillion pens and I just wanna free range lol

I so get that, but I am breeding specific birds, and they evidently don't pay attention to what I tell them about their assigned partners!

 

[JacinLarkwell]

My flock is in the National Poultry Improvement Program (NPIP). We practice serious biosecurity. The only person who looks at every part of my coop is the state inspector, and she is suited-up, including plastic booties.

It's not safe to allow someone with chickens to visit your flock. It's your decision, not theirs, to override safety protocol on your premises.

Precisely why I won't take in those birds. Again, I consider taking a rooster on that wasn't yours originally to be a favor. I'm not going out of my way to do a favor when I might not even need that rooster

 

[ackie]

I so get that, but I am breeding specific birds, and they evidently don't pay attention to what I tell them about their assigned partners!

ugh you go through all that work to make a match and they just won't honor it