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[IvysAnimals]

" Asking a question, not following through with anything. If you feel that you have to be right constantly, leave people along and go somewhere else. "

 

[cherrynberry]

It requires a lot of work and needs to be closely watched. You can’t just crack an egg, put it in a cup, put some plastic wrap over it, and hope it hatches. Eggs have a shell for a reason. Without the shell, they are much more likely to get infections and die. In my opinion, don’t try it until you have a good understanding on hatching, assisted hatching, and on what chicks need to hatch. @MGG has attempted it before and I’m sure she would be able to share more info.

 

[SilverBirds]

I've never heard of this before. I agree with @cherrynberry though. You'd have to keep your area very clean since there is no shell to protect the chick from bacteria. I wish you luck.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I'm pretty sure everyone's seen or heard of the Teens in China that hatched a chick without a shell, right?

I recently watched those videos, not sure if it was Chinese, what I saw.. it took them thousands of eggs to get it right ONE time, but it also has a follow through all the way to the end (in other videos)!

The chick doesn't get it's calcium from the shell it's hatching out of. That's just a containment device.

I understand that. I have been doing research and took my time to make sure I'm doing it correctly. I've also hatched 30+ in the past and 20 are developing in my incubator right now. They're at 1 week and 3 days exactly. All I did was crack a little spot open so the chick could get its calcium and everything but I am able to still watch. Thank you for sharing!

Hatching a cracked shell egg isn't the same as hatching without the shell..

I have been doing research and took my time to make sure I'm doing it correctly.

And you still think the chick gets it's calcium from the external shell?

Hatching 30 chicks is still beginner status.

But what I truly mean is.. Welcome to BYC!

Let the adventures begin!

 

[JacinLarkwell]

I don't see the point honestly unless just legit in a scientific place. A it's going to do in a home setting is either fail or cause issues

 

[ThinMintTheChicken]

I'm pretty sure everyone's seen or heard of the Teens in China that hatched a chick without a shell, right? ( HERE ) Well, would that be safe? I just cracked the wider end of one of my duck eggs yesterday and put the plastic wrap over it. Do you think that would cause problems? What I'm trying to say is, do you think that hatching poultry outside of it's natural process of being in an egg would be possibly dangerous? I think it would cause more problems especially with calcium deficiency or might be too hot, or bacteria problems, short life spans? I'm really just asking for your opinion on this basically. I think it's good for learning about how they grow and it's better instead of killing multiple throughout the month, but I do think that it's still dangerous. I give an update if anything happens!


FUTURE UPDATE WILL GO HERE:

Picture of China's first shell-less chick-
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I've seen a lot of shell-less hatching videos lately, and while it's very cool, I don't really understand the point. A lot of the time the chick develops to day 18-20 but then gets an infection and dies before it "hatches". Why are you wanting to do this, exactly?

 

[NatJ]

The chick doesn't get it's calcium from the shell it's hatching out of. That's just a containment device.
...
And you still think the chick gets it's calcium from the external shell?

At risk of sounding rude: YOU should do more research.

Here's a link to a scientific study, that includes a discussion of prior research on the subject, and a quote of part of it:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579119308387
"For the first 7 to 10 d of incubation, the yolk is the main source of calcium for embryonic growth (Richards and Packard, 1996)... Following the complete development of the chorioallantoic membrane (CAM) between 9 and 14 d of incubation (Gabrielli et al., 2004; Gabrielli and Accili, 2010), calcium begins to be absorbed from the shell and incorporated into both yolk and embryonic tissues (Johnston and Comar, 1955)."

(Notice that people were studying this and writing about it in 1955, 2010, and various years in between: this is not new information, nor has it been disproven in recent times.)

 

[BelovedBirds]

I'm pretty sure everyone's seen or heard of the Teens in China that hatched a chick without a shell, right? ( HERE ) Well, would that be safe? I just cracked the wider end of one of my duck eggs yesterday and put the plastic wrap over it. Do you think that would cause problems? What I'm trying to say is, do you think that hatching poultry outside of it's natural process of being in an egg would be possibly dangerous? I think it would cause more problems especially with calcium deficiency or might be too hot, or bacteria problems, short life spans? I'm really just asking for your opinion on this basically. I think it's good for learning about how they grow and it's better instead of killing multiple throughout the month, but I do think that it's still dangerous. I give an update if anything happens!


FUTURE UPDATE WILL GO HERE:

Picture of China's first shell-less chick-
View attachment 3043352

Dont play with nature, even when done correctly with all scientific care taken, usually they die before "hatch". So yes, it is very dangerous to the baby. Just candle eggs, you can see them develop, just not as clearly.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

At risk of sounding rude: YOU should do more research.

I'm here to share and to learn not to be "right", thought I do prefer accurate. Thanks for the info!

 

[MGG]

I'm pretty sure everyone's seen or heard of the Teens in China that hatched a chick without a shell, right? ( HERE ) Well, would that be safe? I just cracked the wider end of one of my duck eggs yesterday and put the plastic wrap over it. Do you think that would cause problems? What I'm trying to say is, do you think that hatching poultry outside of it's natural process of being in an egg would be possibly dangerous? I think it would cause more problems especially with calcium deficiency or might be too hot, or bacteria problems, short life spans? I'm really just asking for your opinion on this basically. I think it's good for learning about how they grow and it's better instead of killing multiple throughout the month, but I do think that it's still dangerous. I give an update if anything happens!


FUTURE UPDATE WILL GO HERE:

Picture of China's first shell-less chick-
View attachment 3043352

I know it sounds neat, but don't try it. I'm sorry, but just don't. I tried it with 8 chicks, and while it was cool, they all made it to the last day and died from infection. It was the most heartbreaking thing that had ever happened to me. To be left standing there, holding eight beautiful, but dead, babies, and knowing that I'm the reason they died. Of course it's dangerous. And to be honest, it is completely pointless. We already have videos that people have made in labs, where it is possible. So there's no point in trying to do it for yourself, and killing the chicks in the process. It is impossible no matter what you do unless you're in a lab and everything can be perfectly sterile, and monitored. And even then, they still lost a ton of babies too. If your duck egg isn't visibly developing yet, I'd dispose of it. No need to allow it to die a slow, painful death.
And only having incubated 30-ish eggs, you have nowhere near enough experience to even be considering trying something like this.
I didn't try it until I had incubated over 200 eggs, and even then, I didn't know enough.
Leave it to the scientists in the laboratories, and be happy to just watch the videos. They're truly amazing.

It requires a lot of work and needs to be closely watched. You can’t just crack an egg, put it in a cup, put some plastic wrap over it, and hope it hatches. Eggs have a shell for a reason. Without the shell, they are much more likely to get infections and die. In my opinion, don’t try it until you have a good understanding on hatching, assisted hatching, and on what chicks need to hatch. @MGG has attempted it before and I’m sure she would be able to share more info.

I agree.
Thank you for the tag.