using permethrin as a spot treatment???

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by fuzzybutt love, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. fuzzybutt love

    fuzzybutt love Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Recently at my local supply store i was advised that i could make and use a spot treatment out of permethrin 10% for my chickens to deal with the lice infestation..... I did as was told, and it did clear up the lice within 3 days, and i noticed that my rescue hen had her first "normal" poop..??? Since then i have looked through every scrap of internet info i could find and found NO information on using this product this way. (That's why i omitted the dosage) I think it may have worked on my hen's worms, but will not know unless i can get a fecal. Everybody is clean and happy, and no complications were observed.
    Details: Easter Eggers, 1 roo and 2 hens, 1 orpington hen, 1 bantom cochin. Body lice observed on butt and under wings. Possible mite infestation previously, as there were pale combs and missing feathers under wings and on "drumsticks", and tired during day. Feeding 1 Tb manna pro showbird supplement/bird/day + scratch. Frothy runny poops occasionally, with skinny worms, poops occasionally full with definate roundworms (After a day of pumkin eating :O) one poo i thought looked perfect, then i noticed what looked like a piece of rice coming out (Horror) Then recently found what looked like a tapeworm segment.
    Previous treatment was DE and pumkin guts, and the manna pro poultry protector-Would NOT recommend; used up after 1 and a half birds and still no dead bugs. DE worked short term, but they kept coming back.
    Treatment so far: 1x @ beginning of a month, again at end when saw bugs again. Saw tapeworm segment and followed up again at 2 weeks to try to kill. Everyone is eating and drinking good, no bugs, no worms in poop; poop is perfect green with white cap. Only thing wrong is CRD (foamy eyes, phlem)
    I would desperatly like information, good or bad! I probably should not have done this, but was out of options. The other stuff was out of my price range and these are pets. I knew the risks, but took them as an alternative to the lead one, and now am wondering if there could be internal damage???[​IMG] I got these problems by buying from the local auction and not being aware of symptoms until already too late.
     
  2. fuzzybutt love

    fuzzybutt love Chillin' With My Peeps

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    anyone???
     
  3. Josie360

    Josie360 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have wondered about using the 10% Permethrin as a spot on treatment for external parasites. How much did you use and how did you apply(syringe & drops?)
     
  4. fuzzybutt love

    fuzzybutt love Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I need to get to a desk computer to access my notes... phone don't show it but i have a link with all my medical info i've accumilated the last couple years. If you can see "fuzzy's notes" at the bottom of this post click on it and scroll down to the lice and mites section. I have many diagnostic and dosing charts too. I did end up having to buy wormer after this post. I will post the link in a post tomorrow too. I also like using ivermectin as it does most worms too, and the generic version was less than $20. But the permethrin does the coop too.. :)
     
  5. fuzzybutt love

    fuzzybutt love Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Worms and Lice!
    http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/disparas.htm
    Lice
    http://ohioline.osu.edu/vme-fact/0018.html
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=472405

    Worms
    http://healthybirds.umd.edu/Disease/Deworming Birds.pdf
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=576036&p=1
    GAPEWORM - to check to be sure they have it, hold them in your lap, and take a Q-tip - open their mouth, then gently and slowly push the q-tip back into the back of their mouth, whle rotating it. Do the same when bringing it back out. If they have gapes, you'll see them on the q-tip (they are very small/thin and appear to have TWO heads).

    2 parts water 1 part permethrin. 2 drops standard size 1 drop bantam back of the neck just like with a cat or dog. (some use frontline, idk the dose for that)
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    Ivermectin dosing for doing bugs and worms all at once
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/477564/ivermectin-dose-for-chickens
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    ok heres this too
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/465712/frontline
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2013
  6. Josie360

    Josie360 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Great source of info! Thanks:)
     

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