Virus in the loft

[biophiliac]

Pmv is pretty rare. It can happen but usually isnt as often. And it will cause the neck to twist too. And the bird will tremble.

Im pretty sure its cocci. As soon as you said its been very wet, instanlty i thought cocci. Its the most common sickness in pigeons after a heavy rainfall or a wet loft.
Whenever everything gets really wet the birds will contract cocci. Cocci will kill your birds in as little as a couple days.
Their legs become very weak that they dont want to walk or use their legs and their poop is green and watery.

Do you give Corrid in the water? Is there no taste that would put them off drinking? Is there any point in giving it as a preventative, ie- it has been wet but birds seem well? tks

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[thinkyesi]

Yes, you put it in the water. The birds will still drink it.
When you buy the corid there are directions on it for two things. The 5 day treatment and the 21 day prevention. Its a bit of math you have to do to get the right amount you need in the water.
We always start the 21 day prevention on the first day of spring. But you can start it whenever.

 

[biophiliac]

Yes, you put it in the water. The birds will still drink it.
When you buy the corid there are directions on it for two things. The 5 day treatment and the 21 day prevention. Its a bit of math you have to do to get the right amount you need in the water.
We always start the 21 day prevention on the first day of spring. But you can start it whenever.

guess I'm running a bit late , although thankfully they seem healthy.

 

[LamarshFish]

What should I do to treat it?

If you suspect cocci like mentioned above, most lighter antibiotics would likely work, and if you treat that way and it is PMV there would be no harm to using the antibiotics other than the fact that you would be letting more time pass without treating with something that would work for PMV. If you treat with an anti-biotic and the bird gets better after a handful of days, you can be sure it was a bacterial infection like coccidiosis.

You can dual treat though, run an antiobiotic and also give them all the immune system boosters you can possible give them to help fight off PMV (a virus) with their own immune system. I don't think there is any harm in using antibiotics and immune system boosters at the same time. If you use antibiotics in the water, just make sure you're not also putting something in the water that may decrease the efficacy of the antibiotics. For example, while I'm not sure whether ACV (which I always add to my water) would affect antiobiotics, I didn't use it when I recently treated with antiobiotics for a respiratory that was going through my loft. For safe measure, I made sure my water was dechlorinated and did not have any acidic additives such as ACV. Not sure whether immune boosters added to the water would affect antibiotics, I suspect not though.

 

[biophiliac]

If you suspect cocci like mentioned above, most lighter antibiotics would likely work, and if you treat that way and it is PMV there would be no harm to using the antibiotics other than the fact that you would be letting more time pass without treating with something that would work for PMV. If you treat with an anti-biotic and the bird gets better after a handful of days, you can be sure it was a bacterial infection like coccidiosis.

You can dual treat though, run an antiobiotic and also give them all the immune system boosters you can possible give them to help fight off PMV (a virus) with their own immune system. I don't think there is any harm in using antibiotics and immune system boosters at the same time. If you use antibiotics in the water, just make sure you're not also putting something in the water that may decrease the efficacy of the antibiotics. For example, while I'm not sure whether ACV (which I always add to my water) would affect antiobiotics, I didn't use it when I recently treated with antiobiotics for a respiratory that was going through my loft. For safe measure, I made sure my water was dechlorinated and did not have any acidic additives such as ACV. Not sure whether immune boosters added to the water would affect antibiotics, I suspect not though.

Was your treatment effective?

 

[LamarshFish]

Was your treatment effective?

It was! So, the 4 in 1 med I had (ronidizole and furaltadone) was the only thing I had on hand when I realized I need to intervene with meds, but I learned that it may not be the right antibiotics to treat a respiratory, and that tylan or doxy-t is needed, so I started my birds on the 4 in 1 and ordered Tylamox (tylan and ammoxicillin), so my birds were on the 4 in 1 for three days until the Tylamox came, which I started last Friday. My bird with the respiratory appeared fully better by this past Wednesday. My two YBs with green poop for weeks (presumably YB disease) started pooping excellence about 4 days into the meds. Disclosure: I ceased use of my normal feed and forced my birds to only eat my chicken layer pellets that have probiotics in them. They hate those pellets, but I added garlic oil to them, so they ate them, plus it was the only thing they had to eat. Suffice it to say, they have been pooping machines lol. All of them are now pooping sheer excellency, despite still being on the antibiotics (which kill everything, including their good gut fauna). Today is their last day of the antibiotics.

This makes me even more of a firm believer in being a poop professor when it comes to monitoring their health.

 

[Old_Strain_Lover]

Recently I’ve lost a bird and another one doesn’t look well. The birds look healthy then they end up getting paralyzed in their legs, and eventually die. The weather these past days has been very wet. What do you think the virus is and what should I use to treat it?

How is the weight of the birds? how do the droppings look? is your feed nice and dry and mold free?

 

[Old_Strain_Lover]

It was! So, the 4 in 1 med I had (ronidizole and furaltadone) was the only thing I had on hand when I realized I need to intervene with meds, but I learned that it may not be the right antibiotics to treat a respiratory, and that tylan or doxy-t is needed, so I started my birds on the 4 in 1 and ordered Tylamox (tylan and ammoxicillin), so my birds were on the 4 in 1 for three days until the Tylamox came, which I started last Friday. My bird with the respiratory appeared fully better by this past Wednesday. My two YBs with green poop for weeks (presumably YB disease) started pooping excellence about 4 days into the meds. Disclosure: I ceased use of my normal feed and forced my birds to only eat my chicken layer pellets that have probiotics in them. They hate those pellets, but I added garlic oil to them, so they ate them, plus it was the only thing they had to eat. Suffice it to say, they have been pooping machines lol. All of them are now pooping sheer excellency, despite still being on the antibiotics (which kill everything, including their good gut fauna). Today is their last day of the antibiotics.

This makes me even more of a firm believer in being a poop professor when it comes to monitoring their health.

Be careful using layer pellets with antibiotics. The added calcium in them can bind with certain antibiotics (in general I believe it is the "cycline" family such as tetracycline, doxycycline etc.) and make them ineffective. It's best to feed a grain/seed mix during the medication period, and even remove grit which is a source of calcium. Afterwards you can feed what you like.