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[Chicken Rustler]

Quote: Yes, Ritalin is a stimulent, but like most stimulents in children they act as a seditive.
The abuse comes when a child is not challenged in his class work and becomes restive and disruptive. My #2 son was put on that crap and he went from being a normal active kid to a zombie sitting on the stairsteps with his head down. Yeah, he was quiet, but so are people with lobotomies. Once your child is tagged, it follows him/her in school and most of the teachers readily mark them as "trouble" and add to the problem.
I could recite chapter and verse, but this is not the place for that.
Ritalin works in more than one way. See for some it is a doggy downer, and for others it is a puppy upper. See For people with things like sleep disorders such as Narcolepsy it is an upper.
While we hear a lot about Ritalin there is another out there that I had never heard anything about. It is called Provigil. I would caution anybody to be very careful with this. Provigil can also have some VERY bad mind altering effects. Also because these effects may happen very gradual they may be hard to pinpoint what is going on.
PLEASE people pay attention to those who you know. IF you notice unusual or out of the ordinary behavior. PLEASE talk to that person and try to see what may be going on. Try to determine if there have been any changes in meds or lifestyle. See the side effects of these drugs can be so gradual that even the person taking them may not know what is happening to them until it is too late.

You could seriously save a life simply by caring enough to have that less than comfortable talk with your friend or family member.

I know this first hand. See I have been there. I was circling the drain. I was lucky that on my own I figured out what was going on. What was disappointing to me was that after the fact a couple people that see me regularly commented that yes they had noticed something seemed very different about me. But see they did nothing to try to help or understand. I do have one VERY SPECIAL friend who doesn't live close but I owe my life to that person for talking me through some very scary times.

 

[SadieSue]

I wanted to share this cute video of goats yelling like humans. I wish I could have a goat!

 

[FirewifeJess]

Oh my!! The kids and I just laughed our butts off at the screaming goat at 0:25 or so. We played it 10 times!

 

[VelvettFog]

Oh my!! The kids and I just laughed our butts off at the screaming goat at 0:25 or so. We played it 10 times!

They will grow back.

Your butts that is. You can work your butt off or laugh your butt off -- either way, the **** thing just grows right back !

 

[Sweetlilbaby]

Well i got all the eggs in my incubators. Both incubators are full. I'm happy i know I'll end up with a lot of chicks.
I also started the paleo diet yesterday morning. My hives are clearing up, rashes clearing up and i lost 4 lbs over night. I know just water weight but still.

 

[KMHunter]

Hi there! I am throwing a baby shower in a couple of hours so I don't have time to catch up. But had a couple of things to let you all know.

1. The vet I take my animals to, Dr. Bruce at Crossroads Vet, has chicks coming next week and he only wants to keep a few. Would like to sell the rest. I think he said he ordered Welsummers, Ameraucana/EE's, Gold Sexlink and black Sexlinks. He is only keeping a few of the Welsummers. And I think he ordered 10 of each except the sexlinks he ordered 5 of each color. Let me know if you are interested and I can give you his email.

2. I emailed Mark Dooms who is in charge of the Monroe show and he got back to me today. He says it fine if we want to have a potluck like last year. So plan away!

Have a good day!

 

[ChristineR]

Yes, Ritalin is a stimulent, but like most stimulents in children they act as a seditive.

The abuse comes when a child is not challenged in his class work and becomes restive and disruptive. My #2 son was put on that crap and he went from being a normal active kid to a zombie sitting on the stairsteps with his head down. Yeah, he was quiet, but so are people with lobotomies. Once your child is tagged, it follows him/her in school and most of the teachers readily mark them as "trouble" and add to the problem.

ADD meds work to calm/focus the brains of kids and adults that actually have ADD, but shouldn't turn them into a "zombie." It shouldn't work as a seditive. If it does, they're either on the wrong drug or taking the wrong dose. It works as a stimulant on brains that are not ADD, which is why it's abused by college students. You have to find the drug AND the dose that works best for you. Everyone is different. Adderall works for me with the fewest side effects.

I'm not one to immediately jump on the medication bandwagon. I think if it can be managed without drugs, that's better. Some people are mildly affected and some are more severe.

There are definitely some kids that need to be on it, though. What a lot of people don't understand, is that it's not just a matter of keeping these kids challenged. You can't force them to focus. They aren't being lazy and it's not just boredom. An ADD brain does not work the same way as a "normal" brain.

ADD affects MANY areas of a person's life. Every car accident I've been in that has been my fault has happened because I was distracted by something (usually the radio). I've totalled quite a few cars. I have a hard time listening, I make careless mistakes. I make impulsive decisions. I am constantly losing things. I leave clutter everywhere and am utterly disorganized at home (by the time I get home my meds have worn off). It causes problems in relationships. I have every symptom on the ADHD-I list and it has shaped my adult life. ADD is a real disorder. It's condescending to suggest that I just needed to be challenged more.


OK, off my soapbox.

 

[hallerlake]

Quote: The problem with using fear (of paddling) to get a kid to control their inability to sit still is that using all their concentration to sit still means they don't have any left for learning. They might as well go home. Any school that insists sitting still is more important than actually learning is not a school I'd want MY kids in. I wasn't diagnosed until I was in my fifties. I was smart enough to get through school with the little attention I could give it, too, but I was always an "underacheiver". I've pretty much had to give up watching TV or movies with my husband. I can barely do, much less enjoy, the activity if I have to concentrate on sitting still as he insists. He has agreed to play music without words so we can play Scrabble. I can't take stimulants because they give me an irregular heart beat.

 

[hallerlake]

Quote: Yes, Ritalin is a stimulent, but like most stimulents in children they act as a seditive.
The abuse comes when a child is not challenged in his class work and becomes restive and disruptive. My #2 son was put on that crap and he went from being a normal active kid to a zombie sitting on the stairsteps with his head down. Yeah, he was quiet, but so are people with lobotomies. Once your child is tagged, it follows him/her in school and most of the teachers readily mark them as "trouble" and add to the problem.
I could recite chapter and verse, but this is not the place for that.
Did they try adjusting his dosage or using a different drug? The goal should not be keeping a kid quiet either by fear or drugs, but promoting learning. I'm sorry the system failed your son. That must have been a horrible thing to watch.

 

[hallerlake]

I think someone broke into my hen house and stole my eggs today. I always get at least 2 but today, nothing from 5 hens and they looked upset today. This only happened once before and the same people where visiting next door. ARHGG! The next door neighbor is letting some homeless people live in his garage and this is causing a bunch of problems. We ran them off once this year already. I feel sorry for them but they are bringing a bad element around with lots of unwanted traffic. If it happens again all heck is going to break out here. Don't touch my eggs! My hens free range and we don't have fences. I hope these people don't mess with my girls. I left the bay area of California to get away from this kind of stuff! I wish they would take their tweaking midnight parties elsewhere.

Maybe you could get or borrow some of those motion activated cameras to film the thieves, then report it to the police.