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[Chickielady]

I want to find some Houdan chicks from a WA breeder. Any ideas, suggestions? Possibly some Marans chicks as well.

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She has BCMs
I have Silver Cuckoo Marans
not sure about Houdans....

 

[junebuggena]

well, so far I have wheaten pullets & a wheaten splash boy, from their mating we may get a blue, but I am not sure ?? I am not the genetic expert !

Wheaten + Splash Wheaten = 100% Blue Wheaten.

 

[Chickielady]

I don't believe they require special care, but mud makes them messy. If the mud froze it might be a problem. Mine have a dry house and covered run so hasn't been an issue. Others may have insight.

I had feather footed & the clay mud stuck all over & especially the Cochins...wow, their whole under parts would get tiny dingle balls of clay and after a while they got bigger & bigger and then the birds would be covered in clacking dingle balls....I had to cut them off...so never had feather footed again.
My Marans are as far as I go, and they are longer legged than the cochins, so they do alright.
We even have issues with baby chicks &juvenile (started ) birds getting dingle balls on the ends of their toes !After a while the dingle balls have to be carefully picked off the toe nails, or they just get bigger & bigger !

(see some here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/558082/hard-round-growths-on-chicks-feet)
So then imagine the balls bigger, and all over the undersides of a LF Cochin! The balls were big in a matter of days,( big as those you see on a Mexican Hat, for example, LOL)
CLAY mud, not poop, is the culprit here !

 

[Chickielady]

I walked all around and that's the only way I can think of because the run door was shut. No openings to crawl under. BUT, on the outside on one side of the chain link is an old 3ft board fence that im sure aided the cats entrance. Looking at the cat after she was dead, I think she was starving, she felt quite emaciated even for a wild animal. Desperate times call for desperate measures. She thought she hit the jackpot. Food, water, and a cozy clean house!

My poor rooster is going through post traumatic stress. I hope he calms down and recovers quickly. The coop and run are no longer safe havens to him and all he wants to do is get out and away. The hens are already over it thankfully.

Poor guy ! He probably tried to save the others !
It is usually the males the first to go trying to protect the hens !
You are going to have to do a no-climb on that wood fence for sure.
You can cut a 12-20" strip of 2x4 fencing...tack it on top of the wooden fence, and bend the wire over towards the outside, so anything trying to climb over ends up hitting their heads (on that strip of fencing) on the way up....watch that nothing tries to dig under, either.
Out here, besides bobs and the usual predators, we have mink, and smaller weasels...and those suckers can go right through chain link, or under!
They kill, and drink the bird's blood, but usually leaving the dead bird beheaded, but intact.
I really hate mink & weasels !!!

 

[Chickielady]

Wheaten + Splash Wheaten = 100% Blue Wheaten.

Or wheaten + splash wheaten= 100% Wheaten.

what you are saying is Kind of like Black Copper x Black copper=100% Blue copper....you can't get blue from Wheaten unless you breed a blue into a wheaten.

You cannot get blue from black copper unless you breed in a splash (a dilution of black) and that would give you a few blues...a.start...blue to blue = 100% blue
Black to blue =50%black,50% blue (in my experience the result was more like 25% blue & 75% black.

Splash to blue =50% blue & 50% splash
Splash to splash=100% splash
Blue + Splash wheaten=50% Blue Wheaten & 50%Wheaten....same as the ratios above..........

so there in lies the mystery, if mine have the blue, or not...he does have a blue tail, so we'll see.
As far as I know, there is no blue in his line.

 

[junebuggena]

Or wheaten + splash wheaten= 100% Wheaten.

what you are saying is Kind of like Black Copper x Black copper=100% Blue copper....you can't get blue from Wheaten unless you breed a blue into a wheaten.

You cannot get blue from black copper unless you breed in a splash (a dilution of black) and that would give you a few blues...a.start...blue to blue = 100% blue
Black to blue =50%black,50% blue (in my experience the result was more like 25% blue & 75% black.

Splash to blue =50% blue & 50% splash
Splash to splash=100% splash
Blue + Splash wheaten=50% Blue Wheaten & 50%Wheaten....same as the ratios above..........

so there in lies the mystery, if mine have the blue, or not...he does have a blue tail, so we'll see.
As far as I know, there is no blue in his line.

Wheaten/Blue Wheaten/Splash Wheaten works the same way that Black/Blue/Splash works. It's the same dilute gene for black, just with the wheaten pattern instead of the solid black pattern. If Black to Splash results in all Blue chicks, then Wheaten (no dilute gene) to Splash Wheaten (two dilute genes) results in all Blue Wheaten.

 

[Chickielady]

Wheaten/Blue Wheaten/Splash Wheaten works the same way that Black/Blue/Splash works. It's the same dilute gene for black, just with the wheaten pattern instead of the solid black pattern. If Black to Splash results in all Blue chicks, then Wheaten (no dilute gene) to Splash Wheaten (two dilute genes) results in all Blue Wheaten.

But Blue IS a dilution of black...
And mine are not Blue Black & splash
They are Wheaten...no black anywhere, which has to exist in order to be diluted into blue....

Like my Sulmtalers are wheaten, not blue anywhere, but someone did say they were breeding a dilution into them to create Blue Wheaten Sulmtalers, after all we DO (I do) have Silver Wheaten, and Wheaten.

I think wheaten to spalsh wheaten results in wheaten because there is no dilution of black in Wheaten...I guess we better check it out !

 

[junebuggena]

But Blue IS a dilution of black...
And mine are not Blue Black & splash
They are Wheaten...
Like my Sulmtalers are wheaten, not blue anywhere, but someone did say they were breeding a dilution into them to create Blue Wheaten Sulmtalers, after all we DO (I do) have Silver Wheaten, and Wheaten.

I think wheaten to spalsh wheaten results in wheaten because there is no dilution of black in Wheaten...I guess we better check it out !

Wheaten hens have black through the primary wing feathers and in the tail, males have black chest, body, and tail. It's that black that gets diluted by the blue gene. Wheaten has no dilute gene, Blue Wheatens have one dilute gene, and Splash Wheatens have two dilute genes. It's the same dilute gene as BBS, but on the wheaten pattern, instead of the solid black pattern. The blue dilute gene will only affect black coloring, it doesn't matter what pattern a bird has. Blue Wheaten, Blue Laced Red, Blue Copper, BBS; all different patterns but with the same dilute gene. The same rules apply. Black patterning bred to splash patterning will produce blue patterning. Doesn't matter if that pattern is laced, penciled, or solid.

 

[LeannS]

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I have been told that I have : Indian Runner
Khake Cambpbell
Blue Swedish
Black Swedish (2)
Buff with Swedish Tendencies

I got 1 bale of Alfalfa and tied it up in their coop so they can entertain them self, since they are in lock down because of the snow on the ground. I am not stock piled yet because I gave 1 dozen as a gift to a friend that is allergic to chicken eggs. When I have 4 or 5 dozen eggs in the fridge and no room for any thing else , I just have not spread the word about excess eggs because I did not know where I stood.

 

[Chickielady]

Wheaten hens have black through the primary wing feathers and in the tail, males have black chest, body, and tail. It's that black that gets diluted by the blue gene. Wheaten has no dilute gene, Blue Wheatens have one dilute gene, and Splash Wheatens have two dilute genes. It's the same dilute gene as BBS, but on the wheaten pattern, instead of the solid black pattern. The blue dilute gene will only affect black coloring, it doesn't matter what pattern a bird has. Blue Wheaten, Blue Laced Red, Blue Copper, BBS; all different patterns but with the same dilute gene. The same rules apply. Black patterning bred to splash patterning will produce blue patterning. Doesn't matter if that pattern is laced, penciled, or solid.

OK, trying to type with banjo picks on, you are correct, and so we will have a whole lotta Blue Wheaten from this mating !!
Now, someone help me TUNE this banjo!!