Waters of the U.S. - Please Read Serious Stuff

[DuckyBoys]

Ok, I know I was joking and making fun of the situation a few weeks ago when I said that it was illegal in Colorado to have rain barrels and that no one owns their water rights - but seriously - they are about to do a major power grab for the water you guys.

Whatever your opinion on this - that's your business - you don't have to agree with me that I think this is wrong...but PLEASE GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT...PLEASE.

This is somthing out of Madd Maxx - they have a bill that WILL TAKE ALL YOUR WATER RIGHTS and give it to the EPA. This is not some black helicopter theory - this is FACT.

I was just out on a hog farm today and they were TRUCKING in water to their hogs in 100 degree weather because their well went dry and the state won't give them a permit to cap the old wells and drill a new one. The water table is over 450 feet down and their pump went out trying to make it work.

I cannot sit by and watch our freedom go down the drain - after all the lives lost in all the wars - I refuse to let it go for a little bit of welfare.

I am calling my state senator tomorrow and setting up a meeting - if any of you live on the Eastern Plaines of Colorado and would like to join me - the more the merrier. I think our state senator is pretty approachable - I met him on his watermelon field in Yuma once and he was real nice - so just say the word and let's DO SOMETHING about OUR WATER!

 

[jessica117]

I hadn't heard about this. Is this just in Colorado or across the nation?

 

[cluckychick]

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Across the nation

Actual bill can be read here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00787:

 

[Stumpy]

Truly scary.

Edited for trolling. ~Lisa~​

 

[mjdtexan]

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Across the nation

Actual bill can be read here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00787:

This is right in this bill

"(9) `ground waters' are treated separately from `waters of the United States' for purposes of the Federal Water Pollution Control Act and are not considered `waters of the United States' under this Act;"

I am no legal expert but that looks like it excludes our wells. I have two wells here and am thinking of a third out in the back pasture for next years 3 acre garden.

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Carefull there, they've been lienent on us over these political discussions but sometimes comments like that will get you edited. Not trying to police you (trust me, I am the last one for policing) just trying to prevent an incedent.

 

[hearthnsoul]

My father in law was a big farmer had masses of cows, horses and chicks and the lot. This is sort of what happened to him. They came in and started on the water,..then the land to access the water,..in the end the entire town lost their lands and water rights and spent ages fighting for it,...in the end they never got it back..at least not my father in law, he died while the suit was still being fought and of course I heard the people they put in charge of fighting the towns good fight, ended up being corrupt and taking bribes in the background to keep it all going on and on.
I think that is what bothers me when I see complacency. We have lost alot of our rights in the last decade and it seems people are so unaware of it. With each right we give up, it only leads to the next. Our forefathers would surely be shaking their heads now I think.

 

[texasgal]

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Can't argue with that fact.

 

[ijon1]

Our forefathers are very very sad.

 

[The Chicken Lady]

Eight posts in and I'm posting a warning...

If you're upset about the material posted in the original post, drop the flaming and trolling and pick up the phone or write a letter, k? Starting the political bashing here on BYC won't change anything except to get this thread locked.

 

[cluckychick]

With this wording they can tell me how to use the water that collects in my mud puddles and my pond....I think not.

Becareful the new bill trying to be passed through titled: Clean Water Restoration Act states:

(25) Waters of the United States-The term "waters of the United States" means all waters subject to the ebb and flow of the tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, streams (including intermettent streams), mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie potholes, wet meadows, playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing, to the fullest extent that these waters, or activities affecting these waters are subject to the legislative power of Congress under the Constitution.