Weak Peahen, Can't walk without stumbling and toppling over.

[casportpony]

Corid, Safeguard, metronidazole and Baytril can be given together. Whip worms in dogs are found in the cecum, but I have not heard of whip worms in poultry. Gonna look at the parasite book I have and see what they look like.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Here are some picture of worm eggs

Dog whip worm eggs




Poultry worm eggs

















-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

More pictures:
Roundworm





Cecal worm





Capillary worms - Ignore that it says ivermectin is an effective treatment. That may have been true many years ago, but it's not true now!





Gapeworm





Tapeworm





Coccidia





-Kathy

 

[thndrdancr]

I wondered about cocci, would have thought that would have been the first thing that first vet checked for.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse here but oregano oil mixed with olive oil is an immediate acting coccidiastat as well as an antibiotic. It doesn't seem to react badly with other meds, so doesn't hurt to give it a try.

 

[casportpony]

False negative fecals (worms, coccidia, blackhead, giardia) do happen, so no reason to blame the first vet.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

I wondered about cocci, would have thought that would have been the first thing that first vet checked for.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse here but oregano oil mixed with olive oil is an immediate acting coccidiastat as well as an antibiotic. It doesn't seem to react badly with other meds, so doesn't hurt to give it a try.

Maybe, put this bird is being tube feed and I would *never* suggest that anyone tube feeding give any type of oil, nor would I suggest dripping any in their mouths. If they're eating, sure, put some in their food.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Aspiration pneumonia is serious enough, but lipoid pneumonia would probably be fatal.

-Kathy

 

[thndrdancr]

Kathy, I didn't realize it was a big no to use any oil if tube feeding. Why is this, for information purposes? I have never tube fed but with your pictures I would have tried it with my little pea the mom abandoned.

 

[Garden Peas]

When Kathy says "aspiration pneumonia" and "lipoid pneumonia," I think she means that if the bird aspirates (breathes in) liquid or whatever is being tube fed, it can make the bird seriously ill because the body doesn't have a good way to get that stuff back out of the lungs. That's why anesthesiologists don't want people eating or drinking before surgery, so stuff doesn't get in your lungs.

If I understand her correctly "lipoid pneumonia" -- a pneumonia that resulted from aspirating (or breathing in) oil, could kill a bird... and I tend to think she's right, since it would probably interfere with the ability of the lung to transfer oxygen to the blood. I don't know if there would be any way for the body to clear the oil out of the lung, and since oil spreads out in very thin films, it might not take very much at all if it got into the lung for the bird to have a very bad, maybe fatal experience.

I don't know if I said that all correctly, but that's what I think she meant...

 

[casportpony]

When Kathy says "aspiration pneumonia" and "lipoid pneumonia," I think she means that if the bird aspirates (breathes in) liquid or whatever is being tube fed, it can make the bird seriously ill because the body doesn't have a good way to get that stuff back out of the lungs. That's why anesthesiologists don't want people eating or drinking before surgery, so stuff doesn't get in your lungs.

If I understand her correctly "lipoid pneumonia" -- a pneumonia that resulted from aspirating (or breathing in) oil, could kill a bird... and I tend to think she's right, since it would probably interfere with the ability of the lung to transfer oxygen to the blood. I don't know if there would be any way for the body to clear the oil out of the lung, and since oil spreads out in very thin films, it might not take very much at all if it got into the lung for the bird to have a very bad, maybe fatal experience.

I don't know if I said that all correctly, but that's what I think she meant...

Yes, that's what I meant.

What people might not realize is that and ill bird is more likely to vomit, especially with meds like Baytril and metronidazole.

-Kathy