Weak Peahen, Can't walk without stumbling and toppling over.

[new 2 pfowl]

I'm so sorry about your girl

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You are obviously working hard to help her, and I hope she improves.

(PS @zazouse : obviously, the answer is "demented." An accurate assessment, I would say.)

 

[Trefoil]

Do you mean sick as in awesome or sick as in demented. i will wait for your answer

I somehow missed your post about having to euthanize a bird and read from discussing treating the sick bird to pictures of its crop.. So I meant sick as in demented. Sorry about that.

 

[zazouse]

I somehow missed your post about having to euthanize a bird and read from discussing treating the sick bird to pictures of its crop.. So I meant sick as in demented. Sorry about that.

Apology accepted

i am just trying to provide much need photos and info

, i always check the innards of birds i process so i can see what is going on or not going on inside them, makes it easier to understand when you can see how thing look healthy and not healthy

checking the gizzard gives me an in site as to what they eat which i find very interesting. so many things to learn inside and out as gross as it sounds.

I was raised on a farm and you have to learn to take care of many of your animals ailments and we didn't go to farm school for that , we have on the job training so to speak and learn as it comes, back in the day there were not vets in every town like you see now days but even at that many folks just can't afford 1000's in vet bills for a farm animal if they are trying to make a little business out of it and selling off the babies cause you can not keep them all.

 

[Garden Peas]

Maybe we could move our anatomy discussion to a new thread -- our OP is probably stressed enough with her sick hen, then she can peek at the crop photos when she wants without our chatter about DaVinci and his ghouls (my fault for bringing that up!)

Zaz, I'm glad for what you are doing -- we definitely need more knowledge about how our peas are put together. Thank you!

 

[casportpony]

Quote: What I read said that the dextrose helped them to rehydrate faster. She's already had 120ml of pedialyte, so I don't think she needs to get the dextrose now. Not sure if I made any specific comment about which fluid to use. I have also used corn syrup instead of dextrose and that seemed to help a little in some. Hopefully she'll be pooping by morning.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

There are actually some pretty important clues that seem to not have been asked. Is the hen sitting or standing with the head and neck pulled closed to the back/body or is it extended normally? Although I saw something about thin, it was not from the poster? Is she thin? and lastly is she sitting or standing with the feathers ruffled out.

If the answer to these questions are generally: normal (or anything but retracted close to the body), not particularly thin, and no ruffled feathers it is much more likely that she has suffered neurological damage which you cannot treat.

All *very* good questions! But even if the hen was fat, not fluffed or droopy winged, she would still probably be dehydrated and hypothermic, which is why I suggested that she catch, weigh, warm and hydrate. She had been "off " since Sunday, so if she hadn't been drinking since then, she had 24-48 hours before the point of no return (that's based off of how long i have seen it take for other BYC member's birds to die from dehydration, plus what little I know about fluid requirements in people and animals).

Asking a person is their bird is thin is quite subjective, just look at how many people think their thin or fat animals are an okay weight. For me the scale does not lie and a mature peahen should weigh ~3-4kg (6.6-8.8 pounds).

-Kathy

 

[Garden Peas]

@Cheeptrix , how is your hen this morning?

Hoping there is some improvement

 

[zazouse]

 

[Cheeptrix]

Darla is holding her own. Can't see much improvement yet. I have been hydrating her with pedialyte using a tube to the crop as per instructions from Kathy. I started on a weak mixture of baby bird food this morning along with a dose of metronidazole and Baytril. As I mentioned before, on Monday, I drove an hour to the closest "exotic" animal vet to have stool samples checked for both of my birds. They said they were completely clear. Today, I took a sample from Darla to my dog vet and he found coccidia and something he said looked similar to whip worm. Is that maybe Cappilaria? He did not find any noticeable bacteria to be concerned about, so I guess what I'm dealing with is internal parasites.


I've got Corid and Safeguard that I'm going to give.

All the dosing I can find for Corid is to mix into drinking water. I want to drench it down her throat so I know she is getting the amount she needs. Can anyone tell me what the correct dosage would be for a 5 pound bird?

Would you advise continuing with the Metro and Baytril? If so, Can these be given at the same time as the Corid and Safeguard?

Donna

 

[Garden Peas]

This is actually very good news, it means you at least have something to treat to see if she improves.
I would call Kathy to ask her about the oral meds
Thanks for letting us updated, we are all pulling for her to get better!