what are y'all saving from the wild to deal with coming crisis?

[Ra_]

A famine food or poverty food is any inexpensive or readily available food used to nourish people in times of hunger and starvation

My area of Florida has multitudes of lichens. These things can get over 18" in diameter. When wet, they weigh a few pounds. When they dry out, they weigh about one ounce. Yet they look exactly the same, either way.
I tracked down a Lichen expert at a university who told me that it is called Deer Moss and that Native Americans used it as a subsistence food during times of famine.

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The characterization of a foodstuff as "famine" or "poverty" food is primarily social. For example lobster and other crustaceans may be considered poverty food in some societies and luxury food in others depending on periods.

In the early days of Key West, they fed the lobsters to prisoners.
Gourmets had not yet discovered them.

 

[Willowspirit]

Yep The best way is to use animal protein as seasoning...

Rice and beans together provide a complete protein chain... seasoned with Salt pork.

I love love Black Beans and rice....

deb

Black beans and rice are fabulous!

 

[Willowspirit]

This has been a really good thread, very thought provoking except for the posts that devolved into political and philosophical bickering. Think about one important thing we will all need in the event of any disaster, we need to be able to get along and cooperate to survive whatever comes our way. Those angry posters would likely not survive very long. The Op posed a great question, let’s embrace this opportunity and come together with viable solutions to deal with a disaster regardless of who or what caused it. Politics don’t mean squat when you’re trying to save your own butt!

I've always said i would be the first person voted out on "Survivor".

On the other hand my knowledge and skills would make me a valuable partner on "Naked and Afraid" plus I am excellent at encouragement. My husband and I already share with our neighbors.

Also remember as some have referred to here some people (not me) are not prepared to share anything and will defend their homestead with arms.

As my mother used to say, it takes all kinds -- even the angry ones so please don't disparage people you don't know.

 

[Willowspirit]

"clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse"
a quote from one of the books I have read

Electric power on the gasoline pumps
gasoline chain saws for heat
Electric food preservation

Anyone research salt or smoking preservation of food, but then again I don't have a smoke house or a salt mine

I like the idea of rabbit tractors and cooking that rabbit with a wood fire and pressure cooker or boiling/roasting

The problems with certain types of crises , the solutions are difficult if not impossible, yet I enjoy the mental pursuit of a solution.

One show i love is "Homestead Rescue". On one episode the son shows a guy how to make a smoker from a whiskey barrel. Very cool and possible.

 

[IdyllwildAcres]

It does seem the (kind, good, decent,) smart thing to do

And there we have it. Many people who consider themselves kind, good, decent and smart are not being any of those things.

Gary

 

[16Chickens Keeper]

We have a batch (50) of cornish growing for our winter stock and sending ( 24) to family down south, as for our hens we will eat our unproductive hens, and have been planting grass seed to withstand "extreme weather" and will start growing perenials to feed our hens so we dont rely to much on feed and will be fermenting to strech it.

 

[ocap]

the famine food search I did on Google mentioned humans eating sawdust in Russia during WWII. Does anyone know of a reason why sawdust would be harmful to chickens if I mix it in their fermented mush mixture?

 

[Willowspirit]

the famine food search I did on Google mentioned humans eating sawdust in Russia during WWII. Does anyone know of a reason why sawdust would be harmful to chickens if I mix it in their fermented mush mixture?

Sawdust more or less was the key ingredient in light bread. Lots of fiber! I don't believe it could kill them depending on how much they ate but because it is nonnutritive it might kick their growth back which you don't want. If you wanted to add a filler to crumble something like grass hay or even alfalfa might be better.

 

[trumpeting_angel]

I appreciate the turn that the conversation has taken. These are good ideas to toss around.

I am one who mentioned guns, although I've never handled or shot one. I think there may be some survivalists who plan to dig in to their bunkers and protect from all intruders, but in our community I expect there will be plenty of sharing. And we are certainly off the beaten track. But it's also not impossible that people will come to steal. Looting is incredibly common after natural disasters, and if we lose our communication systems, lawlessness is a possibility.

I hate thinking this way.

 

[Willowspirit]

My barn helper mentioned protection, I.e. guns when we were talking about it.