What did you do in the garden today?

[chickengr]

I had to put down another of the hens and I’m sure the Rhode Island Red is done for as well. I just can’t reach her.
So out of 5 birds that were attacked it looks like only the rooster will make it. He isn’t 100%but he is bright eyed, alert, and standing but he hasn’t chosen to go outside yet. Last time I checked on him he had 2 hens, 1 on either side, standing with him on the ladder style roost.

sorry karen, I know the feeling, I have been there. I had to rehome my male german shepherd.

 

[WthrLady]

The broiler farm that culled 580,000 meat birds earlier this week, has a neighboring meat bird farm, Tyson I THINK, boom, bird flu there now too. 400,000 birds. But they STILL aren't telling us where in the county they are.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ou...pai-2022/2022-hpai-commercial-backyard-flocks
and if you back up one page from that one, you can see the list in wild bird populations.

The migrating waterfowl pass it to the song birds that get into the mega barns. I'll keep mine in for a couple weeks just to be on the safe side. There's not much out there to eat anyway.

 

[chickengr]

I used to catch praying mantis all the time when I was a kid. I rarely see them anymore but when I do I feel like it is something special!

when I was a kid a praying mantis got into my grandparents house. my granny thought I had been afraid of it and told my grandpa to kill it. I jumped, caught the poor thing and threw it out of window to save it

 

[Ascholten]

Whether you kill them now, or kill them when they get sick, it's still killing.
Unless they are sick and clearly suffering, Id go for, lets see if they get it or not. They may survive it too, now you have chickens who are IMMUNE to the flu, you know, sort of like that herd immunity thing that's been there ALWAYS !!

They are locked in their pens, they are not passing it on, it's the ones getting IN that are passing it. id try to save my flock instead of just killing them all. Im sure it's all about money, and thats it with these people, kill them all, and claim the insurance write off, and then F the investors come dividend time Preemptive killing just seems so wrong to me. that's just me tho, take it or leave it. Id probably go bankrupt because i actually cared for my flock instead of just seeing it as dollar bills running around.

Aaron

 

[Ascholten]

when I was a kid a praying mantis got into my grandparents house. my granny thought I had been afraid of it and told my grandpa to kill it. I jumped, caught the poor thing and threw it out of window to save it

when I was in the navy, we had one get on the boat which we found underway. At first I put it in our berthing area, and some of the guys got pissy about it, UNTIL, they found out the thing ate the heck out of roaches !! (The boat had a real bad cock roach problem) Hello all you Hockeypuck sailors !!
Anyways, at that point, it was a 'protected species' When they'd clean the berthing area every morning, we'd look for it, and pick it up and put it on top of the lockers so it didn't get hurt and we knew where it was. It was funny, a guy would go by pushing a broom and the mantis would sit up there watching him, you would see it turn it's head. it was pretty funny. He lasted I want to say a month or so, then eventually died.

Aaron

 

[chickengr]

Whether you kill them now, or kill them when they get sick, it's still killing.
Unless they are sick and clearly suffering, Id go for, lets see if they get it or not. They may survive it too, now you have chickens who are IMMUNE to the flu, you know, sort of like that herd immunity thing that's been there ALWAYS !!

They are locked in their pens, they are not passing it on, it's the ones getting IN that are passing it. id try to save my flock instead of just killing them all. Im sure it's all about money, and thats it with these people, kill them all, and claim the insurance write off, and then F the investors come dividend time Preemptive killing just seems so wrong to me. that's just me tho, take it or leave it. Id probably go bankrupt because i actually cared for my flock instead of just seeing it as dollar bills running around.

Aaron

x2

 

[Sally PB]

He lasted I want to say a month or so, then eventually died.

His tour of duty was up.

How many roaches did he kill?

 

[TJAnonymous]

I plan to try that later this summer.

Someone want to start a thread on this topic? Or maybe go to the Preserving your harvest thread and post about it?

By the end of the weekend, I should have scored a couple of 3 gallon icing buckets from the local grocery store. I'll share my virgin attempt at water glassing on the Preserving your harvest thread....that's a great suggestion!

On a side note, I did get 1 bucket from a bakery but I don't think my gamma lid will fit on it. The ones at the grocery store for icing are also 3 gallon but look wider. Pretty sure my lids will work on those!

A 3 gallon bucket should hold about 80 eggs. If you want to store them in smaller buckets. A 1.25 gallon ice cream bucket (provided by a friend that works at a restaurant) that will store approx 25-28 eggs with 2 gallons of water/lime.

 

[Acre4Me]

They may survive it too, now you have chickens who are IMMUNE to the flu

Apparently most die quickly. Those that survive continue to carry it and poop it into the environment. So, no, if a flock gets it - it really is a death sentence.


There is HIGH pathogenicity and low pathogenicity Avian Influenza. HPAI is the one they are concerned about.

Yes, HPAI actually can infect humans, but it is rare and usually only associated with very close and continued contact with actively sick or dead from HPAI birds. So, NO ONE wants the HPAI to infect humans to then be potentially a contagious and impactful illness (remember the COVID craze?).

No one wants HPAI to spread. Obvious impacts of dead birds (just bc they die from illness) and cannot be eaten. (*Note: we don't allow animals that were sick to enter human food chain in the US). Eggs - production birds would also die and one very excellent and low cost healthy food would be in short supply and expensive. Medical: eggs are used in medical areas, such as flu vaccine. There are large impacts if HPAI is allowed to spread. So, keeping birds from getting sick is key. Stopping the spread is usually the next step. Hopefully this current outbreak will not continue for long.

 

[Sally PB]

Just heard on the radio that AI was found in several bird species in Michigan. Canada geese, tundra swan, snowy owl, and a few others that I didn't catch.

This is from the Michigan thread.