What peafowl do I have? And what does this wingband mean?

[Pratik1234]

If he is Bronze he is a very expensive bird. Did you check the back side of the wing tag for a farm name? Many of us put our names on the tags and keep records so people can ask us later what the breeding is.

Yes I checked wing bands on both birds. Only male had wing bands but both different numbers. And there was nothing on the back.

But I’ve noticed that some of his eye feathers are much darker than other eyes.

 

[Dany12]

Color = Cameo !
Pattern = pied white eyes !

 

[Mandarins+]

I would say the male with the long tail feathers is a white eyed cameo and the younger looking male is a bronze. The hen I’m not 100% sure but I believe has cameo in her?

 

[Rosa moschata]

I think they're both Dark Pied -- i.e. homozygous for the Pied gene -- rather than Pied -- i.e. heterozygous Pied/White. I'm not very good at identifying colors in females, so defer to others on that one.

The male looks homozygous for White-Eye, and possibly split to Blackshoulder. If I had to guess a color, I'd say Cameo -- and that he's darker and rather tall and has some yellow in the face all make me think he's also Spalding. So, put together, I'd guess "Spalding Cameo Dark-Pied Double-Factor White-Eye split to Blackshoulder." Cameo will fade with sun exposure, so those darker train feathers may be newer.

 

[Pratik1234]

I think they're both Dark Pied -- i.e. homozygous for the Pied gene -- rather than Pied -- i.e. heterozygous Pied/White. I'm not very good at identifying colors in females, so defer to others on that one.

The male looks homozygous for White-Eye, and possibly split to Blackshoulder. If I had to guess a color, I'd say Cameo -- and that he's darker and rather tall and has some yellow in the face all make me think he's also Spalding. So, put together, I'd guess "Spalding Cameo Dark-Pied Double-Factor White-Eye split to Blackshoulder." Cameo will fade with sun exposure, so those darker train feathers may be newer.

Tanks for your response
What would be the Double-Factor white eye and Dark-pied mean? I’m sorry, I’m always learning new things everyday.

So as you think he is a Spalding Cameo Dark-Pied Double Factor White-Eye split Blackshoulder, what kind of chicks will he produce with the purple pied White eye possibly split to bronze hen ?

 

[Dany12]

Dark pied = 2 genes pied !
But he is more ... for me it's a pied ... why : the big white spots ON the wings! and some white feathers in the center of the tail.
Double Factor White-Eye = 2 genes white-eye ... why : Almost all the tail feathers have white eyes. If there was only 1 gene only part of the tail would be with white eyes.
Spalding : Young peachicks will be spalding but less than father because the mother is not spalding! at this level it counts for nothing!
Split blackshoulder : if the mother was also split blackshoulder it could give blackshoulder birds - I remind you that it need a gene BS coming from the father and a gene BS coming from the mother to show the BS pattern on the peachick !
The peachicks females will be of the color of the father (Cameo) and those females will be split purple and bronze and they will be double Factor White-Eye + a spalding mini level..The youn males will be Blue split cameo + purple + bronze with double Factor White-Eye.+ a spalding mini level.

In summary .... very bad work!
It is to make birds that look like nothing and that genetically are a disaster!

 

[Pratik1234]

Dark pied = 2 genes pied !
But he is more ... for me it's a pied ... why : the big white spots ON the wings! and some white feathers in the center of the tail.
Double Factor White-Eye = 2 genes white-eye ... why : Almost all the tail feathers have white eyes. If there was only 1 gene only part of the tail would be with white eyes.
Spalding : Young peachicks will be spalding but less than father because the mother is not spalding! at this level it counts for nothing!
Split blackshoulder : if the mother was also split blackshoulder it could give blackshoulder birds - I remind you that it need a gene BS coming from the father and a gene BS coming from the mother to show the BS pattern on the peachick !
The peachicks females will be of the color of the father (Cameo) and those females will be split purple and bronze and they will be double Factor White-Eye + a spalding mini level..The youn males will be Blue split cameo + purple + bronze with double Factor White-Eye.+ a spalding mini level.

In summary .... very bad work!
It is to make birds that look like nothing and that genetically are a disaster!

Thanks for the information. I love my birds regardless, and I really don’t think it’s a disaster. They are beautiful species.
And so far no one is 100% sure (including you)about what genes they are possibly carrying or what they are.

But it’s nice to learn more about how genetics works. So thanks for all the information. I guess time should tell what they are. Once they have chicks.

Just for the additional information The person I got them from told me that this pair has produced whites, cameo pied white eye, IB and bronze we.

Thank you again Dany.

 

[KsKingBee]

Only one point of misinformation in Danys post above, the hens will NOT be split Cameo, that is not possible. No hen can ever be split to a sex-linked color of Cameo, Purple, Peach, or Violet. Otherwise, Dany gave you some good information. A different hen could produce some better results, I would go with either a Cameo or Bronze hen although a secret could prevail itself with the two birds you have. They will make a lot of split-to chicks of little value but they will also make a few interesting and hard to find colors combinations with a little luck.

 

[Pratik1234]

Only one point of misinformation in Danys post above, the hens will NOT be split Cameo, that is not possible. No hen can ever be split to a sex-linked color of Cameo, Purple, Peach, or Violet. Otherwise, Dany gave you some good information. A different hen could produce some better results, I would go with either a Cameo or Bronze hen although a secret could prevail itself with the two birds you have. They will make a lot of split-to chicks of little value but they will also make a few interesting and hard to find colors combinations with a little luck.

Thank you
I totally agreed with pairing them with either bronze or cameo to get better genetics in chicks, My whole point is Regardless they are gonna be beautiful birds. Depends on what people want in their peafowl. Even if they are IB split-to birds they are still worth because they will be carrying few patterns like pied,we or BS in them and some split colors. And I just dont agree to the disaster comment. Because we never know what they can or cannot produce.
As I mentioned the people I got my birds from told me they have produced white, cameo pied we, IB and bronze for last two breeding seasons.
But I really appreciate everyone’s point of view and I’m honestly very thankful to everyone who has helped me understand peafowls better

 

[Dany12]

I wrote ...
'The peachicks females will be of the color of the father (Cameo) and those females will be split purple and bronze and they will be double Factor White-Eye + a spalding mini level..'