What's the temperature where you are???
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55 and partly cloudy……high of 71
51F and clear with a high of 67 predicted
EmmaDonovan
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71° and cloudy
Nym
Free Ranging
Tuesday 19th of November 11.05a.m. Heavy grey cloud. Rain o'nite but not enough to wet more than a inch or so down. Light 11.1 / 13kph SE, Hg 61%, 17.9C / top of 20C / 64.2F. Possible shower.
Moon is 86.9%
The flash flooding in Spain's Valencia region last month killed more than 200 people and led to widespread anger, with the nation's king and queen being pelted with mud when they visited one of the worst-hit towns.
So how do these recent Spanish floods compare to past events in Australia, and what can we learn?
Authorities only issued an alert hours after the flooding had already started.
By the time phones were officially alerted at 8pm, muddy waters had already submerged streets and poured into homes.
While locals have criticised the late warnings, the delayed response from emergency responders has also come under scrutiny.
And although the Spanish government has announced billions of dollars worth of aid packages, the perceived mismanagement of the floods has triggered widespread frustration.
She says there are many similarities between the Spanish floods and the 2022 floods in south-east Queensland and northern New South Wales.
At least 23 people died in those floods, which swallowed homes and forced people to wait for emergency services on their rooftops.
The NSW Northern Rivers city of Lismore saw record flood levels in excess of 14 metres.
A NSW inquiry into the floods found warnings were not issued in time and the state's emergency services were unprepared for the scale of the disaster.
While the death toll was significantly lower than in Spain, Dr Prinsley says the "terrible" early warning systems seen there were similar to the alerts "which came too late" during the floods in Lismore.
"Disasters are getting much worse, and we're just not catching up with the approaches that we need," she says.
"I don't think there's any excuse for giving such poor early warnings."
Locals in Spain were forced to step in and do the work of emergency services — something Australia has also seen in past disasters.
"They are fundamentally rescuing themselves," says University of Technology Sydney landscape architecture professor Elizabeth Mossop, who has worked on recovery efforts after huge disasters including Hurricane Katrina.
"I think that's something that we see again and again, unfortunately, in the absence of effective government response."
The anger directed at authorities from local communities in Spain is also something Australia is familiar with.
Professor Mossop says when former prime minister Scott Morrison went on holiday at the start of Black Summer it led to a massive disconnect between locals and the government.
"[In Spain] those citizens feel like they were abandoned … people have faith that the government is going to provide these services," she says.
"When that doesn't happen, I think that leaves terrible, long-standing scars."
Moon is 86.9%
What Australia can learn from Spain's recent deadly floods
23 hours ago
Australia is being urged to heed the lessons of Spain's devastating floods and make sure that warning systems and emergency response capabilities are up to tackling disasters that are becoming more frequent and more intense.The flash flooding in Spain's Valencia region last month killed more than 200 people and led to widespread anger, with the nation's king and queen being pelted with mud when they visited one of the worst-hit towns.
So how do these recent Spanish floods compare to past events in Australia, and what can we learn?
What happened in Spain?
Spain was inundated with more than a year's worth of rain in a matter of hours on October 29, in one of the worst disasters Europe has had in decades.Authorities only issued an alert hours after the flooding had already started.
By the time phones were officially alerted at 8pm, muddy waters had already submerged streets and poured into homes.
While locals have criticised the late warnings, the delayed response from emergency responders has also come under scrutiny.
And although the Spanish government has announced billions of dollars worth of aid packages, the perceived mismanagement of the floods has triggered widespread frustration.
How do the floods compare to past Australian disasters?
Roslyn Prinsley is the head of disaster solutions at the Australian National University's Institute for Climate, Energy & Disaster SolutionsShe says there are many similarities between the Spanish floods and the 2022 floods in south-east Queensland and northern New South Wales.
At least 23 people died in those floods, which swallowed homes and forced people to wait for emergency services on their rooftops.
The NSW Northern Rivers city of Lismore saw record flood levels in excess of 14 metres.
A NSW inquiry into the floods found warnings were not issued in time and the state's emergency services were unprepared for the scale of the disaster.
While the death toll was significantly lower than in Spain, Dr Prinsley says the "terrible" early warning systems seen there were similar to the alerts "which came too late" during the floods in Lismore.
"Disasters are getting much worse, and we're just not catching up with the approaches that we need," she says.
"I don't think there's any excuse for giving such poor early warnings."
Locals in Spain were forced to step in and do the work of emergency services — something Australia has also seen in past disasters.
"They are fundamentally rescuing themselves," says University of Technology Sydney landscape architecture professor Elizabeth Mossop, who has worked on recovery efforts after huge disasters including Hurricane Katrina.
"I think that's something that we see again and again, unfortunately, in the absence of effective government response."
The anger directed at authorities from local communities in Spain is also something Australia is familiar with.
Professor Mossop says when former prime minister Scott Morrison went on holiday at the start of Black Summer it led to a massive disconnect between locals and the government.
"[In Spain] those citizens feel like they were abandoned … people have faith that the government is going to provide these services," she says.
"When that doesn't happen, I think that leaves terrible, long-standing scars."
66° and partly cloudy
115 am Tuesday warm and breezy outside
Reminds me of sleeping on the beach at Gulf of Mexico / romar beach 40+ years ago
& it’s drizzling
Reminds me of sleeping on the beach at Gulf of Mexico / romar beach 40+ years ago
& it’s drizzling
30°F mostly cloudy and windy
12:26 a.m.
12:26 a.m.
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