Wheaten and Blue wheaten Marans Discussion Thread

[OldChurchEggery1]

I'm going on my 6 year of working with wheaten but still a newby. I have 10 or 12 roosters and 11 hens. always love to hear from somebody knowledgeable.have u been breeding wheaten marans long ?

Hi there! I've only had my Wheatens since last year, though goodness knows I've been trying for a while! I'm now hatching out my own Wheaten Marans for the first time and I see now I have got a lot of work to do. I think the person I bought some of my stock from may have crossed them to Welsummers at some point because a number of them have some kind of pattern gene going on. My breeding goals for this year are to get better type in my flock. I love seeing the pictures of your birds because they look nice and solid while some of mine are too light bodied. I like the Wheaten color best so I'll just be working with that variety. Since the Marans seem to have such great personalities as a matter of course, I'm focusing on these three things: Type, then production (I'd like to get a fair number of eggs and good meat production), then feather color. Maybe in a couple of years I'll be at the point where I can get the feather color part closer to the standard.

 

[berkeleysprings]

Randy, Have you noticed that the Standard that was recently approved is different than what everyone thought was going to be approved. To get SOP young the matings will have to be made up different. If you would like to discuss this willing to help. Don


 

id love to. I guess we have to have a separate line of roo and hens to get anything decent looking is that what you mean don?

 

[culler]

id love to. I guess we have to have a separate line of roo and hens to get anything decent looking is that what you mean don?

Randy, will see if I can get someone that knows how to bring the new Wheaten standard over to this thread. I have to run to the lumber yard and will be back later. Don

 

[culler]

Hi there! I've only had my Wheatens since last year, though goodness knows I've been trying for a while! I'm now hatching out my own Wheaten Marans for the first time and I see now I have got a lot of work to do. I think the person I bought some of my stock from may have crossed them to Welsummers at some point because a number of them have some kind of pattern gene going on. My breeding goals for this year are to get better type in my flock. I love seeing the pictures of your birds because they look nice and solid while some of mine are too light bodied. I like the Wheaten color best so I'll just be working with that variety. Since the Marans seem to have such great personalities as a matter of course, I'm focusing on these three things: Type, then production (I'd like to get a fair number of eggs and good meat production), then feather color. Maybe in a couple of years I'll be at the point where I can get the feather color part closer to the standard.

Hi, good to see you on the wheaten thread. Any time you have questions just fire away and someone will reply. Don

 

[berkeleysprings]

Hi there! I've only had my Wheatens since last year, though goodness knows I've been trying for a while! I'm now hatching out my own Wheaten Marans for the first time and I see now I have got a lot of work to do. I think the person I bought some of my stock from may have crossed them to Welsummers at some point because a number of them have some kind of pattern gene going on. My breeding goals for this year are to get better type in my flock. I love seeing the pictures of your birds because they look nice and solid while some of mine are too light bodied. I like the Wheaten color best so I'll just be working with that variety. Since the Marans seem to have such great personalities as a matter of course, I'm focusing on these three things: Type, then production (I'd like to get a fair number of eggs and good meat production), then feather color. Maybe in a couple of years I'll be at the point where I can get the feather color part closer to the standard.

it is so nice to meet somebody close by spotted breast are not a good thing. the pictures my sister took yesterday don't exactly represent my flock I have a few days at roosters but all of them have a little bit of whites in their feathers. I have only got 1 rooster in the past 6 years the didn't have any white the trouble is he was recesivve yellow leg I managed to cull the hen and roo that caused it. i hope i dont need a seperatline for roo and hens. my hens have started laying like crazy but i wont start incub. im so glad to meet a neighborator til next week. I'm in virginia on a regular basis so if there's anything I can do to help you don't hesitate to ask

 

[berkeleysprings]

don I've got west coast wings lessons around arlington tonight but I'd love to get into a conversation with you 1 breeding I'll be back online about 8 o'clock

 

[berkeleysprings]

west coast swing lol

 

[math ace]

Wheaten Standard of Perfection (blue wheaten pictured above)
Male
Comb, Face, Wattles, & Ear-Lobes: Bright red.
Beak: Light Horn.
Eyes: Reddish bay.
Head: Orange red, free from dark feathers.
Neck—
Hackle :Orange red at head, gradually shading to golden orange towards shoulders; free from dark feathers. Some faint striping allowed in the lower hackle.
Front of neck : Black.
Back: lustrous, deep red
Saddle: lustrous, deep red, shading to lustrous orange in lower saddle feathers.
Tail-
Main Tail: Black with lustrous greenish sheen.
Sickles: Lesser sickles lustrous black with greenish sheen and reddish cast on feather shafts.
Wings-
Front black
Shoulders: lustrous, deep red.
Bows: lustrous, deep red
Coverts: Lustrous black, forming a black wing bar.
Primaries: Black, lower webs edged with cinnamon brown.
Secondaries: black, cinnamon brown on outer webs forming a cinnamon brown triangular wing bay when folded.
Breast: Lustrous Black.
Body and Stern: Black.
Legs and Toes-
Lower Thighs: Black.
Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white.
Shank and Toe Feathers: Black.
Undercolor of all Sections: Light slate. Very light in hackle and saddle.


FEMALE
Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red
Beak: Light horn
Eyes: Reddish Bay
Head: Lustrous richwheaten
Neck:
Hackle: Lustrous rich wheaten
Front of neck: Wheaten
Back: Dark Wheaten
Tail- two top main feathers rich wheaten, slightly stippled with black. Balance of main tail feathers dull black, outer web, slightly edged with wheaten.
Wings-
Front: Wheaten
Shoulders: Wheaten
Bows: Wheaten
Coverts: Wheaten
Primaries: Outer web medium shade of wheaten; inner web, ashy wheaten stippled with brownish black.
Secondaries: Outer web, wheaten; inner web, ashy wheaten shaded with brownish black.
Breast: Wheaten
Body and Stern: Medium Wheaten
Legs and Toes-
Lower Thighs: Light wheaten
Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white
Shank and Toe Feathers: Creamy wheaten feathering down the outside of the leg and outer toe
Undercolor of all Sections: varying from light wheaten to slate

 

[berkeleysprings]

  Wheaten Standard of Perfection(blue wheaten pictured above)
[COLOR=0066CC]Male[/COLOR]
Comb, Face, Wattles, & Ear-Lobes: Bright red.

Beak: Light Horn.

Eyes: Reddish bay.

Head: Orange red, free from dark feathers.

Neck—

Hackle :Orange red at head, gradually shading to golden orange towards shoulders; free from dark feathers. Some faint striping allowed in the lower hackle.

Front of neck : Black.

Back: lustrous, deep red

Saddle: lustrous, deep red, shading to lustrous orange in lower saddle feathers.

Tail-

Main Tail: Black with lustrous greenish sheen.

Sickles: Lesser sickles lustrous black with greenish sheen and reddish cast on feather shafts.

Wings-

Front black

Shoulders: lustrous, deep red.

Bows: lustrous, deep red

Coverts: Lustrous black, forming a black wing bar.

Primaries: Black, lower webs edged with cinnamon brown.

Secondaries: black, cinnamon brown on outer webs forming a cinnamon brown triangular wing bay when folded.

Breast: Lustrous Black.

Body and Stern: Black.

Legs and Toes-

Lower Thighs: Black.

Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white.

Shank and Toe Feathers: Black.

Undercolor of all Sections: Light slate. Very light in hackle and saddle.



FEMALE

Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red

Beak: Light horn

Eyes: Reddish Bay

Head: Lustrous richwheaten

Neck:

Hackle: Lustrous rich wheaten

Front of neck: Wheaten

Back: Dark Wheaten

Tail- two top main feathers rich wheaten, slightly stippled with black. Balance of main tail feathers dull black, outer web, slightly edged with wheaten.

Wings-

Front: Wheaten

Shoulders: Wheaten

Bows: Wheaten

Coverts: Wheaten

Primaries: Outer web medium shade of wheaten; inner web, ashy wheaten stippled with brownish black.

Secondaries: Outer web, wheaten; inner web, ashy wheaten shaded with brownish black.

Breast: Wheaten thanks map you're the best

Body and Stern: Medium Wheaten

Legs and Toes-

Lower Thighs: Light wheaten

Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white

Shank and Toe Feathers: Creamy wheaten feathering down the outside of the leg and outer toe

Undercolor of all Sections: varying from light wheaten to slate

thanks math you're the best

 

[bargain]

Okay, I've been reading the SOP and thought I'd come in for some ideas on where I should concentrate improvements in the coming years.... This is an older photo. Some of these females I've retired...but please give me some tips regarding our basic flock.....I'll try to get some more pics when the weather warms up.....and when it dries a little bit. With the last onslaught of wet weather, it's all I can do to feed and water without falling down, don't want to bring the camera for a tumble!




and here's another view


The second shows the females better. Thanks in advance for your helpful thoughts....