Which ivermectin for dogs?

[abluechipstock]

i'm not a vet but was a vet tech for 8 years, the ivermectin i use is the swine/cattle 1% injectable, the dose for deworming a dog is 0.10ml per 10 lbs, i give it orally, i was told never go above 0.80ml even for a big dog, no collie breeds because it can cross the blood brain barrier in those breeds, notice the decimal points, overdosing is easy and can cause liver failure and neurological problems so be very careful, never use the horse paste, it's too concentrated and cannot be dosed properly, hope this helps

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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Our mutt dog weighs about 40 pounds I believe. My daughter just used Ivermectin pour on (blue liquid) on him. She had a syringe with about 1/4 cc liquid in it, and used most of it (drops on his neck). He is still alive and well. Maybe she just got lucky, I don't know.

Sorry, I made an assumption I shouldn't have. Because we have been talking about the oral dose I assumed you meant giving pour on orally. By actually pouring it on you have to rely on the animals ability to absorb it in to there system threw the skin. Even in cows its 5 times stronger to make this work. In horses it is known to make it to the bloodstream but is usually not very effective at the levels that make it there. The studys that I saw with dogs seem to show that its so inefficient that the odds of curing anything in a dog with the pour on is almost zero. Hartworm was not part of there test though.


Back to the 1% injectable taken orally....
To give you an idea of what you are paying for with hartguard, its dosing for just hartworm is actually:
10 lbs = .0027 cc or ml
20 lbs = .0055 cc or ml
30 lbs = .0082 cc or ml
40 lbs = .011 cc or ml
50 lbs = .013 cc or ml
60 lbs = .016 cc or ml
70 lbs = .019 cc or ml
80 lbs = .022 cc or ml
90 lbs = .025 cc or ml
100 lbs = .027 cc or ml

breeders treating for mange, mites, worms, exc dose at 1/10th ml or 1/10th cc or 10 units of a insulin needle for every 10 pounds.

Besides the herding dog warning, abluechipstock's warning about not going over .8ml or .8cc or 80 insulin units is sound advice. I have heard that warning many times so I assume it is true.

 

[PamR]

Good morning, we are new to the forum and are very interested in the information discussed,
We have two large dogs a Bernese Mountain dog and a Lab/ Wheaten mix (mostly lab), Neither breed is recognized by the AKC as a herding dog, however they do have herding traits in their descriptions.

Has anyone used the 1% injectible for cattle on either a Berner or a Wheaten mix?

Also does ,the "white feet, don't treat" mantra apply to the fur or the pad color? I don't think I have ever seen a dog with white pads; but we have never owned a collie or "herder" The Berner is tri-colored and has some white fur around some paws.

Thank you in advance for any help and information

 

[fire370]

I have used 1% ivermectin for years on dogs. Start the new pups on it as soon as the vet says go. We also breed, show and comp GSD's too.

 

[cottonlouie]

I bought the fancy heartworm pills for my dogs....the main ingredient is ivermectin. I plan to use horse stuff at a fraction of the cost in the future.

 

[Chickerdoodle13]

Be careful about that. The dose in the heart worm pills and the dose in horse wormer is VERY different. It is easy to over dose ivermectin and kill a dog. Not to mention, mention dogs experience toxicity with ivermectin. Not just collies. The amount in the heart worm pills is way below the amount that affects even those dogs susceptible to toxicity.

I have to run, but I'll have more on this later

 

[san1]

Hey, Sounds like you've found the right formula ,if i may ,what type do you use ,injectable or paste ? And what dosage are you using per weight?
I have a 75 lb. pitty/st bernard mix just diagnosed with stage 2 heartworm..but i'm off work due to injury and there's no way I could make the vet treatment cost, I'm interested in trying the ivermectin but I have to know what I 'm doing.. i've had him since he was four weeks old , he was the only survivor of a dead litter of a dog my neighbor's rescued and 6 yrs later he's the best dog you could ask for so I don't want to hurt him, but I don't want it to get worse either because of financial issues .
I'd really appreciate any information . thanks,

 

[elissamay]

Ivermectin Sheep Drench 0.08% can be used undiluted by mouth, and is the gentlest option.

"1 cc of ivermectin 0.08% sheep drench solution contains 800 mcg; 0.1 cc = 80 mcg. The exact dosage is 0.034 cc per 10 pounds of body weight, or approximately 0.1 cc per 30 pounds of body weight." (Source)

If your dog is a breed that is known to have ivermectin sensitivity concerns, always work with your vet on dosage, and monitor your dog carefully when dose is given. Or, you can avoid the risk by opting for a product like Interceptor, which uses a non-ivermectin active ingredient.

 

[tamiep]

I have a raccoon with mange coming around my yard and read you can give them Ivermectin paste and it will take care of it in 2 doses 2 weeks apart in some food. It recommended the horse strength but did not indicate how much to give. She looks to be older and getting a little thin, maybe from the mange situation, I'm guessing her weight to be maybe 15-20lbs. What do you suggest I give her?

 

[elissamay]

I have a raccoon with mange coming around my yard and read you can give them Ivermectin paste and it will take care of it in 2 doses 2 weeks apart in some food. It recommended the horse strength but did not indicate how much to give. She looks to be older and getting a little thin, maybe from the mange situation, I'm guessing her weight to be maybe 15-20lbs. What do you suggest I give her?

If the raccoon is coming around during the day, you should stay away from it entirely.