Whole Corn Vs Cracked Corn, What do you use?

[alarson1019]

I too have seen many changes in agricultural, most of them up close and personal.  Overall the greatest change is the one brought on by genetically modified crops.  I have yet to see any negative impact from GMOs on chickens, other livestock, the environment, the Earth or on humans. 

To the contrary, every impact has been a positive impact.  The impacts range from increased yields, higher profits for the farmer, lower food prices for the consumer, decreased need to plow or cultivate the Earth resulting in less top soil being eroded away, not to mention cleaner air and water.  The diminished need to cultivate also saves diesel fuel because there are far fewer tractor hours needed to manage weeds or to control other pests in most GMO crops. 

There is also one other huge benefit I want to mention here, thanks to bt cotton, bt corn, etc. now a lot less insecticide poisons are sprayed on crops than what used to be sprayed in a willy-nilly fashion because the farmer was always running behind or trying to catch up in his pest control or management regiment.  Besides Monsanto and other agri-businesses giants are the largest manufactures of agricultural pesticides and some people expect rational humans to believe that these large agri-businesses have purposely cut their own financial throat by developing bt crops. 

Okay, I relinquish my soap box and eagerly await any scientific (no opinions please) non biased evidence that GMOs are in any way bad except that they perhaps reduce oil company profits.

PS: the suffix (dot) com or (dot) org at the end of an internet address is not in and of its self scientific evidence.  Only organizations doing actual research on crops and crop yields qualify.  Organizations who seem more interested in using the Internet and their Nonprofit, Tax Exempt Status to either fleece the unwary or to pad their bank account will be dismissed out

I'd say that I respectfully disagree with you. I was recently given a year and a half old Jersey Giant with a bag of GMO feed. Upon receiving her I noticed that her eggs were enormous. When I opened them they would contain a fully shelled whole egg inside of the larger egg. This occurs when an egg back tracks up the ovuct and a new egg forms around the previous egg. Once I transitioned the hen to the certified non GMO feed I buy this stopped happening. The only correlation was the feed. My only conclusion was that this particular hen had a noticeable sensitivity to GMO'S.

 

[lazy gardener]

IMO, it's Glyphosphates that are doing the damage. Many GMO crops are specifically bred to be Round Up ready, so the fields can be doused with Round Up. Did you know that farmers are now spraying their wheat crops with Round Up just before harvest so the plants die down and ripen all of the crop at the same time for a bigger harvest? IMO, that's where the real danger lies: the damage that these chemicals are doing to the soil, as well as the residue left in the food we eat.

 

[Chris09]

cracked corn Vs whole corn the sad fact is that as soon as you crack a whole grain open the nutrients begin to degrade, Whole grains last much longer,as a whole ,

Do you have any science or studies that backs your statement here?
I know there are a few of us on here that would like to see where your getting your information.

Once corn is dried properly it can be cracked, rolled, flaked etc. without loosing its nutritional value the only thing that changes it the digestibility.

whole corn is a whole food that has not been cracked open

Your incorrect her also. Below is the definition of whole grain.

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Whole grains or foods made from them contain all the essential parts and naturally-occurring nutrients of the entire grain seed in their original proportions. If the grain has been processed (e.g., cracked, crushed, rolled, extruded, and/or cooked), the food product should deliver the same rich balance of nutrients that are found in the original grain seed.
This definition means that 100% of the original kernel – all of the bran, germ, and endosperm – must be present to qualify as a whole grain.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

I'd say that I respectfully disagree with you. I was recently given a year and a half old Jersey Giant with a bag of GMO feed. Upon receiving her I noticed that her eggs were enormous. When I opened them they would contain a fully shelled whole egg inside of the larger egg. This occurs when an egg back tracks up the ovuct and a new egg forms around the previous egg. Once I transitioned the hen to the certified non GMO feed I buy this stopped happening. The only correlation was the feed. My only conclusion was that this particular hen had a noticeable sensitivity to GMO'S.

I am glad that you do disagree because that is how we make progress.

I respectfully submit that this egg with in an egg syndrome is as old as my self and goes back way further than Genetically Engineered maize, corn or soy.

However i submit that a more likely reason is an overly fat hen that slows down the egg laying process, thus allowing a second yoke to be encapsulated between two shells. If they are nothing else JG chickens are porkers. And hens carry a large proportion of that lard around and in the vent area.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

Do you have any science or studies that backs your statement here?
I know there are a few of us on here that would like to see where your getting your information.

Once corn is dried properly it can be cracked, rolled, flaked etc. without loosing its nutritional value the only thing that changes it the digestibility.


Your incorrect her also. Below is the definition of whole grain.

Without making a big to do about it So Called whole grain foods have either a board of directors or a room full of bean counters making the decisions about what goes into your poultry's digestive system. You could just as easily feed your birds Cocoa Puffs and call it whole grain food.

 

[Chris09]

Without making a big to do about it So Called whole grain foods have either a board of directors or a room full of bean counters making the decisions about what goes into your poultry's digestive system. You could just as easily feed your birds Cocoa Puffs and call it whole grain food.

True.
I was just correcting his use of the term "whole grain". I'm not big on "whole grain" but even I knew that it had nothing to do with if a grain was whole or not.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

True.
I was just correcting his use of the term "whole grain". I'm not big on "whole grain" but even I knew that it had nothing to do with if a grain was whole or not.

I am appropriately impressed. As you were.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

IMO, it's Glyphosphates that are doing the damage. Many GMO crops are specifically bred to be Round Up ready, so the fields can be doused with Round Up. Did you know that farmers are now spraying their wheat crops with Round Up just before harvest so the plants die down and ripen all of the crop at the same time for a bigger harvest? IMO, that's where the real danger lies: the damage that these chemicals are doing to the soil, as well as the residue left in the food we

The vast majority, virtually all of the wheat is NOT sprayed with glyphosate prior to harvest. It is a tool used in specific locations or scenarios on rare occassions.

Unfortunately it is spread as gospel and a SOP by the Anti-Ag zealots.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

I'd say that I respectfully disagree with you. I was recently given a year and a half old Jersey Giant with a bag of GMO feed. Upon receiving her I noticed that her eggs were enormous. When I opened them they would contain a fully shelled whole egg inside of the larger egg. This occurs when an egg back tracks up the ovuct and a new egg forms around the previous egg. Once I transitioned the hen to the certified non GMO feed I buy this stopped happening. The only correlation was the feed. My only conclusion was that this particular hen had a noticeable sensitivity to GMO'S.

Maybe the previous feed provided too much nutrition for this hen and the new feed was inferior in in terms of energy, protein, and other nutrients which caused the hen to reduce her productivity.

 

[alarson1019]

 Maybe the previous feed provided too much nutrition for this hen and the new feed was inferior in in terms of energy, protein, and other nutrients which caused the hen to reduce her productivity.

 Maybe the previous feed provided too much nutrition for this hen and the new feed was inferior in in terms of energy, protein, and other nutrients which caused the hen to reduce her productivity.

With all due respect GMO'S (especially coming from purina) are not more nutritious than feed that is milled fresh daily from a multi-certified local feed mill. I have purchased this feed for years and my chickens have all been extremely healthy.