wht kill coyoties?

[I Love Layers]

Welcome from New Mexico!

I just started a chicken ranch

I've pwned a lot of chickens before but they've all been in salads and sandwiches and in buckets of KFC, this will be my first tiem feeding them instead of me lolololol

So I've decided on ordering 25 one-day-old chicks of varying breeds- half broilers, half layers; the large Snap Lock chicken coop, as well as a Rugged Ranch Products welded wire chicken pen with some extra cages in it for quarantining the sick ones or disciplining the naughty ones if they can't behave and act right

"But building a coop is cheap/fun"

I have no problem paying a lot of money for something if it's worth it.

Yes, this setup will cost ten times more than building a coop and twice as much as a fancy wooden kit ; but this will help keep the mess down since I will be able to periodically relocate it around the property to fertilize where needed and easily clean the setup without worry of damaging anything... and the added protection of the enclosed pen will, hopefully, stave off Coyote Holocaust long enough for the dogs to come to the rescue.

A question for my redneck friends and fam:

I know mules and llamas are bad for coyote health, but what about alpacas or huizos? Are they just as naturally vicious toward them or does their smaller stature, gentler nature and cuteness basically make them a slightly. Larger meal than the birds would

I would recommend a This DogI have a broader collie Greta Pyrenees mix, it stays up all night scaring off coyote away from the chicken coop.

 

[WildfireSmitty]

An LGD is much better at protecting livestock than a Donkey, llama, or alpaca.

If you don't feel like putting a .22 or 6mm projectile into a coyote, then a LGD is the only way to go. They also guard the flock from other predators that donkey's or llamas never give a second look.

If he is looking for a fix right now.. an LGD is out of the question. Getting an already trained LGD is costly, not only that. it takes a lot of time to reintroduce his training to a new master. It also takes years for one to be properly trained. (if you are getting the LGD as a pup) If you go that rout, what's the best breed? Only ones I see that will actually work for your advantage would be a pyranees.

What predators do llamas and Jenny's turn a blind eye on???.. I have seen a llama protect against even a small house cat.

Also You don't want a just any donkey.. you want a JENNY. Not only are they protective, but they are a herder and a herd leader.

 

[I Love Layers]

And if you would get a Great Pyrenees they need little or no training on guarding. They have been known to kill coyotes or injure them also.

 

[centrarchid]

Any dog breed half again as large as a coyote would suffice so long as it has the proper mindset. On average the LGD's including Great Pyrenees and several others meet the size and mindset ideals for simply taking on coyotes but they are not particularly well suited for protecting a stationary resource such as poultry keeping area. Other breeds can be just as effective and sometime more so when smarts / trainability help with getting job done or also serving some other purpose. Depending on location / size of coyotes you have options with respect to the dog used. In my location coyotes are in the 35 to 40 lb weight range so I use dogs that are in the 50 to 65 lb weight range. They dominate the coyotes easily but the biggest problem hands down comes from red foxes as they are more brazen and will attempt to hunt even when dogs about. Coyotes do not want to take the risk. This arrangement results in the occasional fox being caught and killed by dogs. I also use fencing that my dogs can get around and they even use it to funnel their victims into kill zones.

My dogs are German Pointers and they defend several acres that are occupied by chickens from hatch to adult. Dogs also keep me informed by limiting barking to when problems are particularly acute. We have LGD's including GP's and they are inclined to bark enough that I become desensitized to their communications.

 

[komakit]

Ok. I hope this one gets through. Yes kill shote. In the last three years we, my son and I have lost two mustang mares and almost a foal to. Coyote. If wild horses fall prey to our little brothers a chicken has no chance at all. Im not one to blow smoke either. Ive never not had livestock and chickens. I left byc for awhile due to family problems so please dont think this comes from no where. But its my opinion they should be hunted down aggressively and removed. I really hope this one post becouse if you dont have the means or the heart for the job the state you live in does. Not just your animals are at risk but so are many other things if a bold pack hunts your land regular. I also do not mean all coyote. Just the ones after your animals.
I am Komaki if I can help in any way.

 

[TalkALittle]

I can't comment on the llama, donkey, LGD topic, but will comment on your coop choice. You seem to be pleased with your decision of a Snap Lock but even their large coop seems too small for your purposes.