Why Can't You Put Quail and Chickens Together

[Riffecreek]

Not trying to start a quail war again.. but there is a BIG difference in hatchery stock and breeder stock.. Most hatchery stock of coturnix are mixed colors.. a true breeder has many pens with the colors in their own pen.. With the exception of the goldens as they have a gene that when bred with other goldens, it kills most of the offspring.

In bobwhites, Most breeders try to stay true to size for the breed they have.. some have improved the jumbos to remarkable size by selective breeding over many years.. hatcheries breed for numbers and every available bird no matter the size, goes into the breeder pens!

In my opinion, hatcheries are out for numbers, and breeders are out to improve the stock and carry on the bloodlines.. That's the difference!

Edit to say that JJMR is living proof of the difference between hatchery and breeder birds.. anyone ever got a 20oz bob from Murray McMurray??

 

[Rozzie]

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However, if I remember correctly, you've also only had this batch of birds for a few months. You don't exactly have the perspective of a long time period to look back on here in giving this advice based on your own experience. It seems like it was just a matter of months ago that the birds in your picture hatched and I was giving you Newbie advice about your quail chicks, as were others.

Yes Rozzie thats correct, my first quail hatched in December. The advice I gave was given on what I have experience so far with my birds, and non of them have gotten sick. I'm still a bit of a newbie but I have enough info now to make my own opinions.

Four months really isn't much experience with keeping any kind of animal that has a longer life span than crickets.

It takes years to develop expertise. I certainly won't claim to be an expert, that's for sure! I value greatly the advice of those here with years of experience in this area raising thousands of game birds.

It's best to clarify that what you are offering is OPINION based on extremely limited experience rather than presenting your opinions or ideas as if they are based on years of experience. This way, people can make a more informed decision about whose advice to take -- that of another Newbie (which you are after four months) or that of those with years or decades of experience.


Would you take the advice of a first year pre-med student taking their first Anatomy class about whether or not you should follow a course of treatment for a medical issue? Or, would you seek out an experienced medical specialist at a leading research hospital? That's the kind of difference we're talking about here. You are still the first year pre-med student. Some here are somewhere in between. We've got a handful of people on this board that are more like the experienced specialist of the quail world. You've got a few years (or decades) to get there. It's best to temper your advice some in the meantime.

One of the steps to gaining wisdom is to know what we don't know.

 

[JJMR794]

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However, if I remember correctly, you've also only had this batch of birds for a few months. You don't exactly have the perspective of a long time period to look back on here in giving this advice based on your own experience. It seems like it was just a matter of months ago that the birds in your picture hatched and I was giving you Newbie advice about your quail chicks, as were others.

Yes Rozzie thats correct, my first quail hatched in December. The advice I gave was given on what I have experience so far with my birds, and non of them have gotten sick. I'm still a bit of a newbie but I have enough info now to make my own opinions.

Four months really isn't much experience with keeping any kind of animal that has a longer life span than crickets.

It takes years to develop expertise. I certainly won't claim to be an expert, that's for sure! I value greatly the advice of those here with years of experience in this area raising thousands of game birds.

It's best to clarify that what you are offering is OPINION based on extremely limited experience rather than presenting your opinions or ideas as if they are based on years of experience. This way, people can make a more informed decision about whose advice to take -- that of another Newbie (which you are after four months) or that of those with years or decades of experience.


Would you take the advice of a first year pre-med student taking their first Anatomy class about whether or not you should follow a course of treatment for a medical issue? Or, would you seek out an experienced medical specialist at a leading research hospital? That's the kind of difference we're talking about here. You are still the first year pre-med student. Some here are somewhere in between. We've got a handful of people on this board that are more like the experienced specialist of the quail world. You've got a few years (or decades) to get there. It's best to temper your advice some in the meantime.

One of the steps to gaining wisdom is to know what we don't know.

ROZZIE YA BEAT ME TO IT

 

[sparkybeegirl]

Just to answer in a completely different way.
It sounds like this person just wants a few quail and is not planning to set up a breeding/stock situation.
I keep my small flock of quail in a medium sized pet kennel that takes up hardly any room. I think it is not difficult or expensive or space consuming to set up a separate space for a small trio or quartet of quail.
I do have to clean it out regularly, but it would also not be hard to construct a false floor out of hardware cloth that would fit inside the kennel.
Not an expert, but just my 2 cents.
Ruby

 

[chump]

sorry double posted now cant delete

 

[chump]

ok a few things

i have 1 chick hatched out of a $9 toy incubator and 50+ bobwhites hatched the next day. i have them together for convienence. can they still get sick. and i use straw on the floor of the brooder that the outside chickens and wild birds have contact with in the barn also.

and cant wild quail make contact with wild birds that have had contact with chickens? maybe thats why they arent around as much anymore?

i truely am a newbie, this is my first try at raising quail. but if they are that fragile and all die then i guess i know not to waste my time on such a weak bird.

off topic i hatched 55 out of 60 eggs, 3 infertile 2 died early. is that good?

 

[MobyQuail]

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best of luck, and all bold type is "my" humble opinion. as an aside, this thread is a little wore out and most of the gray matter has posted what they want to say already.

 

[chump]

yeah but you cant serilize everything that comes in contact with them. hay out in fields for example, grains and corn to make feed grows in open fields as well. so i no its better to separate them for convienence (see its a good word) and for disease control but how many chickens pass diseases to other chickens compared to chickens passing to quail?

i will have them separated of course but mainly for convienence and im releasing some, how can i sterilize the entire area?

 

[chump]

can i keep my neighbors dogs in with them?
sorry had to join in.


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oh yeah those eggs when through the mail too. and i didnt have a thermometer, dont ask.

 

[JJMR794]

will have them separated of course but mainly for convienence and im releasing some,

THAT WOULD BE WISE SINCE INDIANA SPECIFICALLY STATES RELEASE OF DISEASED QUAIL IS PROHIBITED....

"(p) A license holder under this section shall not release wild animals possessed under this section except for
bobwhite quail and ring-necked pheasants. A license holder under this section shall not release known
diseased bobwhite quail and ring-necked pheasants."

ONCE RELEASED THERE IS NO WAY TO EFFECTIVELY PROTECT THEM, AND SINCE RELEASED BIRDS HAVE LESS THAN 2% SURVIVAL RATE ITS PROBABLY A MOOT POINT AS IF THE DISEASE IS THERE IF IT DOESNT KILL THEM THE LACK OF HABITAT OR PREDATORS WILL​