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Why do people intentionally break the law?
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PurpleChicken, you speak well, and we can always agree to disagree
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Life would be very boring if we all agreed all the time.
Your and my chickens are legal but my heart is breaking for a friend who has to get rid of hers' because of laws I don't agree with. She was one of the unfortunates ones to get caught and now has to deal with the consequences.
Life would be very boring if we all agreed all the time.
Your and my chickens are legal but my heart is breaking for a friend who has to get rid of hers' because of laws I don't agree with. She was one of the unfortunates ones to get caught and now has to deal with the consequences.
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I don't mind you ignoring laws I embrace if you aren't hurting anybody in the process or you are only hurting yourself or legally competent adults who have given their consent to be hurt by you. Not sure what laws I would embrace that would keep anyone from doing something completely harmless, though . . . I guess a person could debate what is and isn't harmless.
I don't mind you ignoring laws I embrace if you aren't hurting anybody in the process or you are only hurting yourself or legally competent adults who have given their consent to be hurt by you. Not sure what laws I would embrace that would keep anyone from doing something completely harmless, though . . . I guess a person could debate what is and isn't harmless.
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I don't know why people do that, but I wonder about it every time there is a post concerning having to get rid of birds because they were found out or being a "ninja", etc. Why not just go ahead and do it right in the first place. I do see a lot of merit in the argument that it is easier to just do it, rather than jumping through the hoops, but in my instance, I would just go ahead and jump through the hoops. I'd rather prevent trouble later, and I'd rather enjoy my birds with a clean conscience, free of worry.
That said, the world is full of people who break laws everyday (and I'm not talking about real criminals, such as thieves, or murderers, etc.) I'm talking about people who speed, run lights, travel in the fast lane, rather than using it for passing slower traffic. . . there are laws regarding all of these things, and many more, but many do seem to think the laws don't apply to them.
Well, I do not know anywhere that this is actually a law, as compared with a common curtesy.
I don't know why people do that, but I wonder about it every time there is a post concerning having to get rid of birds because they were found out or being a "ninja", etc. Why not just go ahead and do it right in the first place. I do see a lot of merit in the argument that it is easier to just do it, rather than jumping through the hoops, but in my instance, I would just go ahead and jump through the hoops. I'd rather prevent trouble later, and I'd rather enjoy my birds with a clean conscience, free of worry.
That said, the world is full of people who break laws everyday (and I'm not talking about real criminals, such as thieves, or murderers, etc.) I'm talking about people who speed, run lights, travel in the fast lane, rather than using it for passing slower traffic. . . there are laws regarding all of these things, and many more, but many do seem to think the laws don't apply to them.
Well, I do not know anywhere that this is actually a law, as compared with a common curtesy.
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Are the associated fines "easier"?
Are the associated fines "easier"?
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Well, I do not know anywhere that this is actually a law, as compared with a common curtesy.
In Germany it is illegal to travel in the left lane except to pass.
Well, I do not know anywhere that this is actually a law, as compared with a common curtesy.
In Germany it is illegal to travel in the left lane except to pass.
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Laws are created for a lot of different reasons. The core reason is to protect people. You speak a lot here about "50 years ago" yet 50 years ago we had many fewer laws, albeit a smaller population. I agree in principle with some of the other things you mentioned but we are getting a tad off topic.
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Well I feel it should be them but then there needs to be a social structure in place to handle that. In a perfect world one neighbor would just inform the other of their complaint and the other would fix it. From there an advocate or judge can decide based on the nuisance like you said, not the cause.
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Is it really? We have federal law and state laws which govern our police forces and court system. Then we have the local ordinances, bylaws, and the rest of the written rules that vary from state to state. These are the "laws" that most people aren't even aware of until issues are raised. Like I said before I can't be arrested for having chickens. They can fine me and make life miserable but that's about it, depending of course where you live.
Laws have always been broken, for some good, some bad, and some indifferent or ignorant reasons. Please consider too that laws are subject to interpretation and that is what lawyers and judges are for.
Laws are also abused by the powers that be just as often as they are by the people supposedly governed by these laws. Again, look at history.
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This is truly where we agree. If someone's right, liberties or safety are being violated this is how the law should be written. I'm glad you brought this up because it is the real solution to minor issues like keeping backyard chickens.
Laws are created for a lot of different reasons. The core reason is to protect people. You speak a lot here about "50 years ago" yet 50 years ago we had many fewer laws, albeit a smaller population. I agree in principle with some of the other things you mentioned but we are getting a tad off topic.
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Well I feel it should be them but then there needs to be a social structure in place to handle that. In a perfect world one neighbor would just inform the other of their complaint and the other would fix it. From there an advocate or judge can decide based on the nuisance like you said, not the cause.
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Is it really? We have federal law and state laws which govern our police forces and court system. Then we have the local ordinances, bylaws, and the rest of the written rules that vary from state to state. These are the "laws" that most people aren't even aware of until issues are raised. Like I said before I can't be arrested for having chickens. They can fine me and make life miserable but that's about it, depending of course where you live.
Laws have always been broken, for some good, some bad, and some indifferent or ignorant reasons. Please consider too that laws are subject to interpretation and that is what lawyers and judges are for.
Laws are also abused by the powers that be just as often as they are by the people supposedly governed by these laws. Again, look at history.
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This is truly where we agree. If someone's right, liberties or safety are being violated this is how the law should be written. I'm glad you brought this up because it is the real solution to minor issues like keeping backyard chickens.
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