Why soy free?? (And the effects of soy)

[Wifezilla]

Sure global warming is a cycle that has occurred in the past with out mans influence. Do our actions contribute?

Alaska used to be a steamy swamp. Colorado used to be an ocean. There were NO PEOPLE at the time, but obviously the climate changed.
4000 years ago there was a medieval warming period. Obviously that wasn't caused by SUV's. I think global climate change may have a heck of a lot more to do with the GIANT ORB OF BURNING GAS in the sky.

Back to soy, yes, it is a big gamble. People can gamble if they want. I object to not being allowed to walk away from the table.​

 

[CARS]

 

[bibliophile birds]

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believe me, luck has very little to do with it. i was first diagnosed with hypothyroid when i was 12, only after about 5 years of bad health and unexplained weight gain. various doctors had me on every program imaginable and, when they failed, would always revert to the position that it must be that i wasn't "doing my part" to follow the programs. one doctor actually told my mom that i must be secretly hiding junk food. my mother insisted that he explain to her exactly how a 10 year old purchases junk food secretly as she never had it in the house and that i, when given the option of the occasional ice cream, always refused (turned out i was lactose intolerant as well, so ice cream made me nauseous).

it wasn't until she actually threatened to sue one of these doctors for refusing to run all the tests that they found out that i had severe hypothyroidism. they subsequently found out that my mother and grandmother have it too and later my cousin was diagnosed. after all that, my mother wouldn't accept just any old doctor. i've been driving 6 hours round trip to see a specialist for the past 12 years. even with superb doctors seeing me, my hormone levels were completely erratic.

it was pure luck, however, that one of my doctors happened to read a report by a doctor in Europe that showed a significant correlation between soy and hypothyroidism. all those years doctors had been telling thyroid patients that they needed extra iodine and no one really bothered to establish exactly why that was. one reason: an anti-nutrient in soy actually disrupts the body's ability to use iodine and tyrosine to make thyroid hormone.

another significant problem: many hypothyroid patients are on porcine hormone replacement. more and more pigs are being fed a steady diet of soy. guess what? pig thyroid hormone levels have been dropping too, making medications even more unstable.

i cut soy out of my diet (and that of my livestock) and have been getting better and better. cutting soy is never going to fix the problem, but it's making managing it a whole lot easier. i've made it through the winter thus far without getting sick (a quite often occurrence before), i've actually been able to enjoy being outside without thinking i was going to freeze to death (hypothyroid causes severe cold intolerance), and my hair has STOPPED falling out!!!

i found out long ago that you have to MAKE doctors do their job. there are fantastic ones out there, but, sadly, they are few and far between.

 

[CARS]

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That is great!

(BTW, you think it's cold down there.....)

 

[BlackBart]

another significant problem: many hypothyroid patients are on porcine hormone replacement. more and more pigs are being fed a steady diet of soy. guess what? pig thyroid hormone levels have been dropping too, making medications even more unstable.

Great! Now thats a back-ended way to screw up a good thing. I'm not surprised, Soy is a big money making business. Big business pays for allot of the studies done, so it would lean to the pros of Soy. The thyroid hormone I buy is from Belgium, I wonder if it is safe from Soy? Armour brand thyroid I read recently, isn't. But who would know for sure?

I have noticed that with my family and friends that suffer from low thyroid, their doctors were more than happy to write them a prescription for anti-depressants but didn't really want to write them a script for porcine thyroid.
What does that say about our society today? You have to get very aggressive or get a new Doctor.

As you probably already know, many low thyroid symptoms mimic depression and the thyroid scale is out of date. So you can be suffering from low thyroid but the scale indicates you are within the acceptable levels.
Your right, Europe is far more advanced in research than North America regarding Soy and somehow that information is not being shared or it is being ignored.

I guess the old joke about investing in soy beans was actually a premonition.

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

As you probably already know, many low thyroid symptoms mimic depression and the thyroid scale is out of date. So you can be suffering from low thyroid but the scale indicates you are within the acceptable levels.

No kidding......when I got tested, full panel mind you, I was told I was just fine, and if I kept having miscarriages, that I should just go on birth control to fix my hormones, even though she said I had nothing wrong with me.

I have classic Hypothyroidism symptoms, as well as very poor adrenal function.
And I had to do all the research to find this out.
I refuse to get it fixed medically after all the junk I was told, so I am taking Licorice root and Maca root for adrenal recovery, ( if you do nothing for the adrenals, the thyroid will not recover, and vice versa) and Lugols 5% for thryoid function.
Plus fermented cod liver oil and hight vitamin butter oil for further healing.
Slowly getting better.

Now if I can just remember to stay on the regimen when I feeling awsome in the summer........

 

[bibliophile birds]

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even with good doctors that is a hard balance to find, but, yes, most doctors run for the anti-depressants first and foremost. i was on porcine hormone AND anti-depressants for a long time. at one point they actually thought i was bi-polar but it turned out to just be nasty fluctuations in hormone levels. now that my thyroid medications are leveling me out, i've been coming off the a-ds slowly (i'm down to a tiny amount). it seems to be working well.

 

[bibliophile birds]

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that is so weird. my doctor will not ALLOW me to go on birth control until my hormone levels are regulated and says that he will take me off bc at the slightest hint of hormone weirdness. since i'm happily single, it's not such a big deal.

 

[gsim]

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Soy products are not good for humans. There are good articles on it at www.mercola.com
in their archives.

 

[West Central MO]

I am still waiting for the guys name who free ranges his hogs in Missouri (Salatins partner)i......I would find it hard to believe he could beat the $11/head profit and have better returns with the coyotes around here. He probably supplements them with SOY

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