Wisconsin "Cheeseheads"

[FrenchToast]

Ok so question. 4 chicks have died (1 DOA, the other 3 -1 each day) so far from Meyer and now I have 1 more on its way out. It's doing the same as the other 3. Its fine one minute then starts laying around alot, then gets wobbly and wont open its eyes. Then falls over slowly and dies. This time its a Black Jersey Giant as far as I know, he was fine last night up flapping, running, eating ,drinking, ect now today he is just laying around, when the others step on him he gets up then lays back down. I took him out of the cage and he just cuddles up in my hand and closes his eyes.
Any clue whats going on ?? The have fresh water, purina medicated chick starter as the food. All the rest of the chicks are wandering all around and acting normal.

First thing I would do is make sure they are warm enough. Then I would give them some electrolytes and vitamins in their water. Then I would put some corrid in their water and treat for cocci.
But a chilled chick is a dead chick. IMHO
Sorry to hear about all of the losses. I think I am going to lose a turken chick today. All of a sudden it is laying around and not eating. Ant this one is several weeks old.

Angibuds, I would definitely talk with the school and do what Apyl suggested. Sounds like the school is just going by their rule book instead of a case by case basis. I'd raise some H3LL !!!

As far as Wally, I didn't read the suggested threads yet but Wally is protecting his girls. yep you need to establish the dominant roll but I don't think kicking (even gently) or pushing or any of that will solve the problem. That give him the idea that you want to challenge him.
I don't have the thread handy but I recall someone saying you need to pick him up and calm him down and then release him when he is calm. You might have to catch him buy his legs to do this and he will put up a fight but I have a rooster that trys to challenge me and I pick him up and calm him down, stroke his back and once he's calm I let him down.
If you don't want a mean rooster, stay away from the polish !!! lol JMHO

Ps, we decided (or should I say I did) to not go to Klondike Days in Eagle River today. DH has been complaining of a tooth ache. We never emptied the truck from my trip to the feed store and our tractor is out of oil so we are not plowed out. He is having a devil of a time getting the hay out the the critters so I thought, wth, we don't have the $30 to get in plus the gas money to drive 110 miles round trip. And I'm just plain old pooped out these days. That's the main reason I guess, didn't have the energy and I don't want to hear about everything that he needs to do when we got home. Sure would have liked to see the Sleigh Rally though. Everything else up there I've seen tons of times so no biggy.

Ok, later

 

[FrenchToast]

Angiebubs, grab that rooster and hang him upside down! It may be that if the other rooster is dominant he may be taking his frustration out on you. If he goes to a new home with no other roosters he'll be fine.

I wouldn't let the school's threats of truency stop you from visiting your father.

I agree !!! He only has one Grandpa (on your side) and there are several Schools !! If the school doesn't understand that, time to change. Someone at that school needs this,

 

[Angiebubs]

Thanks for all the advice-I am looking up the articles now. And just to clarify-I would NEVER hurt the roos with my boot-its more pushing them back or out of the way. Or when one of them was mounting a hen in front of me-I would push them off. Just sad as these were some of my first chicks and trying to figure out what to do with them. I am crossing my fingers that as they mature they may calm down a little, is this just wiishful thinking? They are 7 months old.

Tiki: I had 3 (Out of 8 chicks I bought when starting out). I re homed one (Hansel). And Wally has been a total sweetheart-he had an eye infection or something and was very sick-had to hold him a lot to get antibiotics in his eyes etc-afraid he lost some of the respect for me through that-maybe too much handling?

Apyl: Thanks-this letter last night was stating that it was just informative-and they are required to send out when a child has missed 11-15 and 20 days-and that at 20 days there are further steps: Parent meetings etc. I will definately contact both her local Dr and Childrens Hospital to get a letter. It bothers me because some of the teachers are understanding others not so much. Example: When her blood sugars are high, she has to use the bathroom frequently-couple times the teacher wouldnt accept the pass for being late, or told her she needs to go between classes or when she asked to be excused, told her she needs to try and wait. With diabetes it can sometimes mean needing to go several times an hour. I emailed and explained this and it helped for awhile. The one comment I always receive about my DD is that she is so sweet and respectful and a joy to have. Yet she needs to be more assertive and speak up for herself-hard to teach that when she feels like shes being disrespectful. I will talk to the school and find out about the missed hours/needing to make them up.

Not sure if I mentioned this previously, but her state tests came back pretty high-she has issues with getting make up work in, her name on papers, or being late with turning things in-frustrating. We are working on a plan now to have her write each class down whether homework or not, and go over it each night, I may even see if I can get the teachers to initial whether she turned it in or not. Its a matter of being organized, Tough though when I leave in the morning at 7 and return at 6:30 and she has after school activities (these should be winding down in the next couple of weeks)

At her previous school, they had several kids with diabetes (larger school in the cities) and they monitored, sent home a note each day with her BG's, etc. This school expects her to come in and test and to write her numbers down in case there is every any questions. I understand she is getting older and needs to take more responsibility, however, its a lot for her on top of normal stuff and teen hormones etc...to try and keep track of what her body is telling her-go test (and miss out instructions in class) and if she gets gluten ( from Celiac) in her system the symptoms can be awful. Usually Ive kept her home for the first day but you can feel like you have the flu for 4 days-foggy thinking/hard to cocentrate, upset stomach and aches and pains.

Ok-whew! Thanks for letting me vent and lending me an ear!!!

BBP Congrats on the hatches-cant wait to see pics!

Apyl: Sorry to hear about the babies-hope you figure this out soon. I've lost one chic from my original batch last yr-at a day old and its so disheartening!!! Have you been able to tell if they are drinking enough water? Not sure if someone else mentioned this but electrolytes always worked for me with the parrots to give them a little extra energy boost.

 

[Angiebubs]

BBP: How do I go about picking the rooster up? He has started to not want me to touch him at all, and if my hand gets near him he either runs, dances, or will try and peck at it? I will say Im a little intimidated by him right now and thats making me tense.

These articles are interesting and seems to me the best advice and makes the most sense is to NOT be agreesive back but rather act calm and not invade their space. Reason this makes sense is-there is no agression unless I am too near him-its not like he comes after me-more if he feels cornered. Also interesting info on how certain clothing/shoes can make them more protective. When I get home from work-in work clothes, to lock them up-clothes are usually gray, black, dark. Weekends-its brighter clothing...hmmm.

One suggestion is to try and give the rooster treats-that would work with Donny-not so sure with Wally-as last night had treats, and he was taking it out of the container but then was trying to reach me (he was on his roost) to peck me.

 

[Dr HaHa]

Angie sounds like your having a pretty rough time. Hope it gets better! No wonder your roo is angry-kickin him off his girlfriend. I'd be PO'd too! Bf4 and TO take a break! I got a bad tude after the leaky can thing and instead of painting put the remaining mud on the seams of the walls. Ran out of that so I just quit tomorrows another day. But I did go out and spend time with the youngins their gettin tamer by the day. And I made a really spiffy paint can for the ladder. Think a beer would taste pretty good right about now. Yup I was right!

 

[Dooner]

HI everyone,

I tried hatching four eggs that I ordered online using my bantam wyandotte that went broody. Stupid me, it took me two weeks before I figured out that was what she was doing. I moved her into the garage in my small coop and placed the eggs I ordered under her. She was good for about a week, then I think she was off the nest more than she was on it and the eggs were often cold. I think I am going to give up. I listened to the eggs and hear nothing. It has been 23 days. The eggs were Orpingtons. Should I just figure it was a good lesson and toss the eggs?

Does anyone have a couple of pullets? I still have my other three production chickens but two of them have been bullied until they are have naked. They are great layers, but ugly!

 

[bigzio]

Afternoon All...Good to hear from you Dooner....yep, just toss them and lesson learned. Mom knows when it's quitting time too. Better luck next time. keep your ears open the amount of pullets available in the months to come will be numerous...kina wait for the ones you really want....in my opinion.

Hope everyones family that is less than their best improves for them...Best Wishes to all of those folks.

bigz

 

[tiki244]

Interesting Apyl!!! I leash trained my Viszla mix in a day too with his methods.

Sorry about the chicks apyl.

Maybe some sugar water would help. And a bag of rice in the microwave with a towel over it so they dont burn themselves. The shipping is hard on them.


I heard a rumor

on BYC that if you handle roosters too much when they are young, they can become aggressive when older. Maybe he thinks your his sibling/competitor. llol Like FT I have picked them up and held them when they seem a bit aggressive. I think at 7 months he still is young enough to train. IMHO I have been a bit gruff at times when needed, well look what the roosters do, just chicken talk. I didnt think you were mean to him. Sorry if it came agross that way.

A silkie breeder friend says she spins her cock birds around whenever they attack her. Course spinning a silkie is a lot easier than a barred rock. lol I have tried the spinning method/ seems to work good.

 

[Angiebubs]

Right now hes acting so tense I cant get near him-he either runs or acts like hes going to attack. I think Im going to be as inevasive as possible for the next couple days and see if he settles down. And maybe try bribing him with treats. Kinda discouraged with the whole thing right now.

 

[Dooner]

Thanks Bigz