WORMING with Fenbendazole - - How much?

[math ace]

The active ingredient in Safegaurd is fenbendazole. Panacur is another Name medicine that uses fenbendazole as its active ingredient.
I found the following article on the poultry keepers web site at http://poultrykeeper.com/poultry-medication/poultry-medication/panacur-used-for-worming.html

Panacur - Used for Worming
Written by Tim Daniels
Friday, 03 July 2009 00:00
Panacur is not licensed for use in Poultry in the UK. It is a wormer that is commonly used for cats and dogs but is a broad spectrum wormer that many vets will prescribe for poultry.

If you take your chickens to the vets for worming they will probably be given Panacur.

Used to treat: Large roundworm, caecal worm, gapeworm, hairworm and gizzard worm in poultry and the Taenia species of tapeworm.
Dosage: Varies according to the vet's advice. Usually between 10mg and 50mg per Kg of weight. Repeated 7 to 10 days later.
Active ingredient: Fenbendazole.
Egg withdrawal for chickens: Intervet (who make Panacur) advised 7 days following the last day of treatment.

Slaughtering for meat for human consumption: 7 days after the last treatment
Length of treatment: 7 to 10 days (dosage is repeated after 7 to 10 days).
Category: POM-VPS
Storage: In tightly closed original container below 25ºC and out of reach of children.
Further information can be found on NOAH Compendium of Animal Medicines
The advice given here is that of the authors and should not be considered as professional advice. Where there is conflicting information, you should always follow the advice of your vet

 

[math ace]

This is a very detailed report on worming use in goats.....

It recommends having a test for prescence of worms at the 10 day mark. If 15% or more of the chickens still have worms.... then retreat.

I found this infomation of page 30 of the pdf. I tried to copy / paste the information but

I am just not as computer literate as I should be! LOL

Here is the link ....

http://www.luresext.edu/goats/library/field/WellsC05.pdf

 

[ArizonaDesertChicks]

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It sounds like I do need to retreat, but not with Fendbendazole, or does it make a difference on the degree of molt? My hens are very slow molters. The only clues they give when they are molting are: 1. the large amount of feathers in the run 2. I can see new pin feathers on their necks and wingbows (I only see these new feathers on a couple of my hens). There are no naked hens or even bare area on the bodies of my flock.

The treatment instructions listed above does say many breeders worm in early May, late August and again in early November. I just treated 9 days ago, which could be considered late August (the 2nd treatment would be Sept). I just bought a new tube of Safeguard for the 2nd dose, but can exchange it, if necessary. If I purchase a tube of ivermectin paste for horses (versus the Fendbendazole for horses), do I give the same dosage to my chickens (1 pea size dose)?

My babies (16 weeks old) were given Wazine only (2 doses) because of their age and I don't want to affect their growth.

 

[math ace]

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I don't normally worm any of my younger chickens until around the 4 or 5th month. That way I don't have to toss any eggs, yet they are worm free right before that start laying. The problem is Wazine is that it only kills one type of worm.

Safegaurd is a really nice wormer to use because it is so safe and hard to overdose on it. Ivermectin is a horse of an entirely different color. Your dosage needs to be much more accurate. This is some advice I found on BYC written by one of our very own administrators - terrielacey

I used the paste. I squeezed out a one inch strip and put it in a pint jar of hot water. I let it sit overnight to dissolve and poured it into a one gallon waterer. Filled the waterer and swished it good to mix and that was the only water source for my chickens for 3 days. I confined them to the barn. HTey were not happy, but it was raining, so they would have been hunkered down in there anyway.
I did a 4 week withdrawal time, which worked good as they were not laying much anyway, so it really turned into a 6 or 7 week period.

 

[kathyinmo]

Thanks for all the information, Lisa! Much appreciated.

I have switched to Valbazen for worming now, and am very happy with it. I still like to know about the others though.

Thanks again!

 

[math ace]

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Your welcome. I tried the pour on epinex this year and man that is a lot of work.... A lot more than just mixing it in the waterers like I use to with the safegaurd.

How about the Valbazen and the million dollar question - -- Is there an egg withdrawal period?

 

[kathyinmo]

Below is a copy of two posts made by Pine Grove. I value his opinion.

Valbazen which is a cattle wormer is the best I've ever used..It kills more types of worms than all the others combined, And you don't have to worry about a massive worm kill like with piperazine or ivermectin which will sometimes clog the intestines..Valbazen slowly starves the parasites over a 2 to 5 day period..Valbazen is also used for human treatments at 400 mg child or adult..So unless you are allergic to it I'ts ok to consume the eggs after treatment, But I and all I know wait two weeks ..I'ts pricey at around $40.00 per bottle but well worth it

Dosage is 1/2 cc orally to adult large fowl.. 1/4 cc for bantams and young standard breeds
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Is Ivermectin really effective for cecal or gizzard worms? Levamisol would be my choice as a water soluble..IMO Piperazine and Ivermectin has seen their better days as an effective round wormer..After wroming with everything from Red devil Lye to the old Salsbury Wormall Tablets I'm convinced that Valbazen is the most effective wormer that can be given to poultry, It even has anti-protozoa properties against Blackhead and coccidiosis...

Oh, by the way, the way I give it is ...... I put the dosage on a piece of bread and give each bird a treat..... the laced piece of bread!​

 

[math ace]

Thanks Kathy..... I will have to give it a try next year.

The pour on sounded like a dream.... but it takes forever to apply it when you have a mess of chickens. Then to reapply in two weeks

I made it through 4 pens of chickens with the second application BUT I never got to the 5th pen for the second application.

I need to return to a mix in the waterer system. I take it from the previous post that the wormer is not meant to be mixed in water ? ? ?

 

[kathyinmo]

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I have read that some people do mix it in water. However, I do not know the details. I find it easy to just put on a piece of bread for each chicken. I have ALOT of chickens, and it isn't difficult, and then I don't have to worry about mixing up water mixtures.

 

[Wooster Crazy]

good info thanx i keep asmall book to keep it all handy..