You might try training them to eating cubes of bread. Then on worming day put the wormer in the bread. Wemeasured the valbasen andinjected each cube. A few birds were piggy and ate 3-4 times there dosing but did not die. ANd doing a lot of birds is much easier that way. WE still had a few that would not take the bread and did direct dose those.wormed my girls yesterday, 19 hens and 1 rooster thought it would be more difficult. my girls are not used to being held. I notice Chester was limping this morning he did not want to be held and we may have pulled a leg muscel while he and I danced.