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Worms and Worming - Warning, Graphic Pictures and Videos

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by casportpony, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. enola

    enola Overrun With Chickens

    When was that information published?

    Worms in poultry have become immune to Ivermectin. There are much better wormers to that have much shorter egg discard time.
     
  2. casportpony

    casportpony Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    That dose *might* treat large roundworms, but I don't think it will treat cecal, gape or capillary

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    -Kathy
     
  3. Folly's place

    Folly's place Overrun With Chickens

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    Where's your data for that? Ivermectin works fine here in Michigan. I don't dilute it out; just a complicating step. It is best to worm based on data from fecal samples run on your flock. There isn't an official egg withdrawal time, because it's not approved for use here. Only piprazine and hygromycin B are approved for use. Mary
     
  4. casportpony

    casportpony Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Is piperazine is approved for egg layer? I know hygromycin B is, but thought piperazine way approve for meat birds.

    Many peafowl people have been using in amounts in excess of 0.4 mg/kg and still have positive fecals. Sadly, many people have lost their birds because they relied on ivermectin. [​IMG] Very few people will have fecals done, you're lucky in that you can do your own any day of the week. [​IMG]

    Two studies for everyone to read:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9269125

    Anthelmintic efficacy of ivermectin against Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. in pheasant.

    Lamka J1, Svobodová V, Slézková J.
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    Abstract

    Ivermectin (IVM) was perorally administered in dosage schemes 1 x 0.8 mg/kg of body weight (b.w.), 1 x 1.6 mg/kg h.w., 3 x 0.8 mg/kg b.w., and 3 x 1.6 mg/kg b.w. to pheasants infected by Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. The samples of faeces were coprologically examined. The clinical state of pheasant was controlled. In all of the used therapeutical schemes the helminthostatic or partially helminthocide effect against adults of worms was reached. The clinical signs of helmithoses were reduced only. IVM in tested doses is not possible to recommend as an effective drug of pheasant syngamosis and capillariosis.


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2816174
    Ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic--trials with naturally infected domestic fowl.

    Oksanen A, Nikander S.
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    To evaluate the use of ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic, 29 White Leghorn hens naturally infected with Ascaridia spp., Heterakis spp. and Capillaria spp. were treated with 0.2, 2 or 6 mg/kg intramuscularly or 0.2 or 0.8 mg/kg orally. Faecal samples were collected before treatment and at autopsy, 2, 6, or 16 days after treatment, when the intestines were also examined for helminths. None of the treatments gave satisfactory anthelmintic results.

    -Kathy
     
  5. casportpony

    casportpony Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    @KsKingBee , can you do us a favor? Next time you find parasite eggs in one of your birds, can you try treating it with ivermectin? I'm curious...

    -Kathy
     
  6. Folly's place

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    I just looked at the FARAD site, and piprazine is no longer listed for poultry. It's not very useful anyway, but it's now gone. Hygromycin B was still on the list, but that was the ONLY wormer mentioned. There are issues beyond lack of approval for the bendazole wormers, so I avoid them for my flock. I will report back about the Ivermectin. Just used it for a nasty mite infestation. UGH! As I said before, it would be nice to have safe approved effective products!! Mary
     
  7. casportpony

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    Those of us with peafowl and turkeys are especially intererested in treating cecal worms and capillary worms.

    -Kathy
     
  8. casportpony

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  9. Dom'sHEns

    Dom'sHEns Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Can you mix ivermectin with a drop of detergent to increase water solubility?

    Dom
     
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  10. aart

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    Wonders what this statement means..."
    Because of the lack of a tolerance in the US
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    Lack of tolerance in parasites to the chemical..... or lack of tolerance in using chemicals in food animals?
     

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