Yellow runny poop... ?

[casportpony]

Is she drinking? Best to get her in a warm room, 80-85 is the ideal temp for a sick bird.

-Kathy

 

[CarolynF]

Is she drinking? Best to get her in a warm room, 80-85 is the ideal temp for a sick bird.

-Kathy

Not sure if this comment was meant for me, but here's what's been going on...

She stopped drinking and was getting weaker, as I mentioned. Friends suggested various liquids I could give to her with the syringe. I ended up using a mixture Sav-a-chick electrolytes in water, raw honey, and egg that I whipped into a cream-like consistency. On a 2 hour schedule I fed her about 5-6 tsp (25-30ml). She remained lethargic but not getting any worse. Late in the evening her poop contained some loose stool that was a more normal color which I took to be promising.

I gave her a dose of Safeguard even though the "API General Cure" contains praziquantel, another wormer. I'll give her a second dose in 10 days, correct?

This morning she seems more alert. She won't eat on her own yet and I haven't actually see her drink, but I won't be surprised if she does before the end of the day. Fingers crossed.

Thank you for your help yesterday, without this thread and the knowledge you share I think we would have lost the battle.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Yes, that was meant for you.

The API General cure should have praziquantel and metronidazole. Metronidazole is an antibiotic/anti-protozoal, not a wormer. Please confirm that it has 75 mg praziquantel and 250 mg metronidazole. Safeguard can be given with both praziquantel and metronidazole.

At five pounds she she get 60ml of fluids 3-4 times a day, which is why I suggested tubing.

-Kathy

 

[CarolynF]

Quote: Yes, that was meant for you.

The API General cure should have praziquantel and metronidazole. Metronidazole is an antibiotic/anti-protozoal, not a wormer. Please confirm that it has 75 mg praziquantel and 250 mg metronidazole. Safeguard can be given with both praziquantel and metronidazole.

At five pounds she she get 60ml of fluids 3-4 times a day, which is why I suggested tubing.

-Kathy

Hi Kathy,
Yes, the API General Cure has 250mg metronidazole and 75mg praziquantel. The praziquantel is a wormer and can be found in products like Zimectrin Gold. It's effective against tape worms which many wormers are not. I haven't found whether it's effective against cecal worms or not. I had some concerns about doubling up on wormer but you're saying (above) they won't conflict. Good to know.

She is drinking on her own now and I'm still giving her liquid food every 2 -3 hours. Thanks for the information on fluid requirements. It turns out that's what I was giving her so I'm glad to know. After watching the videos I can understand why you prefer tubing once you've mastered it. Much faster! She's showing interest in treats now so hopefully by the end of the day she'll be eating a few solids on her own, or at least semi-solids.

I notice she's holding her tail up now too.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Yes, that was meant for you.

The API General cure should have praziquantel and metronidazole. Metronidazole is an antibiotic/anti-protozoal, not a wormer. Please confirm that it has 75 mg praziquantel and 250 mg metronidazole. Safeguard can be given with both praziquantel and metronidazole.

At five pounds she she get 60ml of fluids 3-4 times a day, which is why I suggested tubing.

-Kathy

Hi Kathy,
Yes, the API General Cure has 250mg metronidazole and 75mg praziquantel. The praziquantel is a wormer and can be found in products like Zimectrin Gold. It's effective against tape worms which many wormers are not. I haven't found whether it's effective against cecal worms or not. I had some concerns about doubling up on wormer but you're saying (above) they won't conflict. Good to know.

She is drinking on her own now and I'm still giving her liquid food every 2 -3 hours. Thanks for the information on fluid requirements. It turns out that's what I was giving her so I'm glad to know. After watching the videos I can understand why you prefer tubing once you've mastered it. Much faster! She's showing interest in treats now so hopefully by the end of the day she'll be eating a few solids on her own, or at least semi-solids.

I notice she's holding her tail up now too.
Sorry, I misread your post. Eyes were blurry and I hadn't had my caffiene yet. I think there is only one wormer that praziquantel can't be given with, and that's pryrantel *tartrate* (different than pyrantel pamoate).

Tubing is super easy and very safe, so if you decide you want to learn, just let me know. Have taught many, including children.

hope she keeps improving!

-Kathy

 

[Cluckies]

I've found when my girl was sick, even if she would eat nothing else, she loved sweet potato baby food. I mixed corid in with it, and in her water. then as she was getting better I mixed both with her crumble. she didn't care for the other baby food flavors, but loves that sweet potato.
Mine had yellow poo similar to yours it looks like. I treated for cocci with corid, she got better thank goodness. Good luck with your girl!

 

[CarolynF]

I've found when my girl was sick, even if she would eat nothing else, she loved sweet potato baby food. I mixed corid in with it, and in her water. then as she was getting better I mixed both with her crumble. she didn't care for the other baby food flavors, but loves that sweet potato.
Mine had yellow poo similar to yours it looks like. I treated for cocci with corid, she got better thank goodness. Good luck with your girl!

Thank you, she is feeling better each day. I offered her a bit of left over rice last night and she gobbled it down in a flash. Then I offered her a few tiny spinach leaves and she did the same with those!

 

[Junibutt]

Also reaching out to:

@casportpony ,
@Michael Apple
@dawg53

or anyone else who may be available.

Here is my dilemma! My 7-8 week old chicks were doing fine until 2 days ago. Yesterday when I opened them, I saw them poop mustard, watery liquid. At least 2 or 3 out of 11 are involved. It smells like cecal poop but its just a watery splash. Here are couple of pics:












All that has changed is:

Last 3 days have been unseasonably cold and even my adult hens (they are all separate and don't share any food containers/feed etc) are huddling together.

I could not find any grower feed to switch them to from chick starter feed. So I mixed a lot of scratch in the chick starter feed to give it to them.

I gave them chick starter back yesterday and all of them ate it like crazy even the ones pooping like this. They are drinking fine as well. However, walking a little slow unless I try to approach them, and have hackle feathers fluffed up.

I weighed them on Sunday and all of them gained 15-20% from the week before.


Will it hurt if just started them on Corid as a precaution? What else could it be?

That looks like it could be coccidiosis, so I would treat with Corid at the max dose. Dosing picture:


-Kathy

Either Corid is a miracle drug or it was their diet, however within 24 hrs of adding Corid to the water, the chicks with mustard liquid poop are pooping either normal or solid poop with a mustard tinge. However one of the chicks still pooped that white looking poop in the 3rd picture. Any idea if that might be a variation or if that is somethings else.

Also since they healed so quickly,can I stop Corid on Day 5 and then do the preventative dose?

 

[CarolynF]

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As of this morning she's eating and drinking well, but I found something new, a lash egg (pictures below)

I've read the article (here) written by Vet Annika McKillop explaining what they are and how they come to be. It's good that I've been giving her the antibiotic as it sounds like the source was bacterial. The article doesn't mention the yellow poop, which is still happening. I wonder if blackhead and Salpingitis are related in any way?
The prognosis for Salpingitis isn't promising and I may be considering a necropsy at the state vet.
Any thoughts?










UPDATE: The state vet responded to my questions. With that information I'll be cleaning the nest boxes as it is during laying that bacteria can enter the body. I do clean the coop and pen every day, but not the nest boxes. The hen wouldn't be expected to make a full and permanent recovery so I will make arrangements to cull her fairly soon. I don't want her to have to go through this again and then die slowly, it would be unkind.

 

[CarolynF]

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Hi, just a comment in reply to your question about giving Corrid as a preventive....
It is not uncommon, IF you're not using medicated chick feed, to give Corrid for a week, then stop for a week, then repeat for a couple of months. The theory is that they will be allowed to get enough exposure to build up a natural immunity without getting sick. I know people that have followed this plan for many years with good results. I'm sure others have additional ideas and advice, I'm just sharing what I've learned from others.