Young white eyed peafowl pics.

[nfrost]

So if i were to green my I.B or black shoulder with the same breed would the offspring pure I.b. and pure blavkshoulder than or would they have more white them?

 

[nfrost]

Breed not green sorry

 

[Kev]

My pieds are brother and sister i also have another sister but she has the markings of a dark pied, what makes it difficult is the fact that the parents have no white feathers at all so i guess when they breed i will know better, i will be selling off the 3 blues males i have that have no white at all, that will leave me with 2 males with white flights and pied look and 7 females all the females have white flights so i am hopping for a variety of color from the matings.

Check that dark pied hen and see if she has any possible signs of white eyed. Sometimes it seems to me the combination of white eyed plus dark pied or split white "adds more white" on the bird. Some white eyed split whites have so much white on their wings- all the primaries and reaching up into the secondaries, which seems to happen much less often on split whites without white eyed.... but again, white eyed varies quite a lot in how it expresses on bird to bird.

The good news- if your male happens to be white eyed, it doesn't mean he is necessarily pure for it. Meaning he could throw both white eyed and non-white eyed offspring... more variety in chicks?

It will be fun to see what colors your birds will produce and perhaps be able to figure out what the "pied looking birds" really are.

 

[Kev]

Interesting...that's news to me-I thought that the split pied would have white on either their primaries or throat patch? I thought if they had white on their wings or throat they were split to either pied or white. That's what we're here for, to learn new things

Yeah that doesn't seem to be mentioned as much as split whites showing white. I went ahead and tested this by breeding a pied to a pure IB and the chicks did seem to come out half with white and half without any white at all..... seeming to support this idea. kept one hen that did not have any white and bred her to a white with the idea that she was very likely a split pied, and guess what- pied chicks...

Birds pure for pied gene are 'supposed' to show some white on flights/chin but can look awful lot like a split white... but I want to agree with someone who brought up on here that perhaps the difference between those and split whites is the tendency for pure pieds to have white on chins, a little more extended areas of white, like zazouse's pair. but the bottom line is it's best to test by breeding birds in question to a white and see what sort of chicks are produced.

Years ago, dark pied was used to describe birds pure for the pied gene.. but lately sometimes it's been applied to normal pieds that happen to have smaller amount of white so it's not a very consistently used term anymore.

 

[Kev]

So if i were to green my I.B or black shoulder with the same breed would the offspring pure I.b. and pure blavkshoulder than or would they have more white them?

Hard to tell without test mating to a white. If they are bred to a white and no pied or white chicks are produced then they are 'pure IB or BS'.

If they produce either whites or pieds.... breeding your IB or BS to pure IB or BS hens will give you chicks that are half pure, and half carriers for white or pied. They shouldn't get "more white".

If you want to get rid of the white/pied from the flock, don't keep any chicks or birds showing any white feathers on the chin or flights..

 

[bruceturkey]

I have a pied pair and they came from parents that were not pied nor did they have white flight feathers but this person has been getting pied babies from them every season so far. What i am wondering is my peacock going to be a white eyed? both he and the hen have frosted feathers and the hen is lighter and frosted also. It does not really matter i am just curious if anyone has some young white eyed photos to share so i can see if he and the hen are white eyes. Here is a photo of him and his frosted tail feathers at about 8 months old i think I am downloading some recent photos of the pair i will post them later. thanks for looking

 

[bruceturkey]

I have a pied pair and they came from parents that were not pied nor did they have white flight feathers but this person has been getting pied babies from them every season so far. What i am wondering is my peacock going to be a white eyed? both he and the hen have frosted feathers and the hen is lighter and frosted also. It does not really matter i am just curious if anyone has some young white eyed photos to share so i can see if he and the hen are white eyes. Here is a photo of him and his frosted tail feathers at about 8 months old i think I am downloading some recent photos of the pair i will post them later. thanks for looking

my young white eye has a very small white throat patch, one or two white primaries, and no "frosting" on his back or wings at all. But he is starting to get his first white eyes in his train. he looked an awful lot like the one in your picture last year, save for less white on the throat and in the wings. So who knows. He could be a white eye.

 

[zazouse]

he is pretty.

 

[zazouse]

This is the same peacok above a bit older now.

 

[KsKingBee]

Zaz, I really like how small the white dot is in the eyes, it makes the color pop. Would you consider this a single factor WE because only about half of the eyes have white in them?

I have a 2013 hatch IBWE cock that I am hoping is double factor but I probably won't know for another year and a half.