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Eggs don't do well shipped in the heat either, just an FYI. I second what the other repsonse said, check the Club page and see if anyone in your area (even a few hour drive away) if you need birds right now.

Walt is very right when he mentions body is the important thing. Very few Legbars (especially that I've seen in photos) meet the type description and that should be fixed before color, but I do think that the color issue needs to be in back of mind due to the red being very hard to get rid of...

Just to clarify since I was the one that brought it up, I'm not a fan of the double mating but the articles mentioning needing the red in males for good female color and proper males creating poor colored females if proven accurate means the standard should be written to reflect one or the...

I don't know that I buy autosomal red (the dark red/chestnut on wing) is needed for salmon, but I do believe that gold/straw whatever you call it might be.

Reading through all that, it makes me think that they are pretty much saying that the standard as written in GB is only achievable through double mating. Perhaps the American standard should either allow more gold in the males so the females get the salmon breasts (and since that seems to be a...

You just enter them. I would provide a current version of the standard printed out so that hopefully the judge will look at it. Also if there's multiple people showing them there who are also hopefully club members, perhaps the exhibitors and club could get permission from the show secretary to...

It'd be nice to have some UK people on this board to help y'all with the standard. I just hope that whatever is decided people stick to it. I'm rather fond of the appearance of the breed and would hate to see it not get recognized, or when a standard is approved people not sticking to breeding...

Didn't realize that, thanks for clarification. I don't follow other countries standards at all, but unless we assume that they are totally sloppy about their standards then it appears pretty cut and dry, the Brits don't want any sort of shafting in the chest or back because its not mentioned on...

Well that answers that entire thing. Sounds like the British Standard is ok with it and it just needs to be mentioned in the American version. I do not have experience with Legbar breeding yet (haven't been able to find decent stock) so I don't know what age to cull. With the Crele OEG which...

Back shafting is much easier to get rid of by basic selective breeding (hatch a ton a cull mercilessly). Basing this statement on experience with Crele which are a similar pattern.

The solution probably falls upon double mating. That's what a lot of OEGB guys do to get good chest color in the females in applicable varieties. I have heard both hackle color and male chest color is linked to the shafting. For example: With Black Breasted Red, if a male had a bit of red in...

It was more a comment suggesting that make sure you set the standard and breed to it. Rather than set the standard to the majority of existing birds. Why reward bad breeding? 10 years ago all the Old English Game had huge leghorn tails, but they didn't change the standard for it. Backyard...

Most breeds I'd wager 90% or so of the animals out there do not meet the standard. Also remember its only been a couple years that y'all have had these. You need to decide if any shafting is permissible, but not just make it permissible simply because the majority of birds have it. It is called...

Well by quick acceptance I mean no issues and that it actually gets done. There's varieties out there that have been around for long periods of time and never got recognized.

That's because the Standard lists shafting under general defects. So unless you say it is permissible or required it will be marked down. Just an FYI for you guys. I'm rooting for quick acceptance and am trying hard to get some stock, so I do not have first hand experience to know if shafting...