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  1. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    You''re not making any sense Ralphie. If the vaccine is effective and many hatcheries and breeders vaccinate for Mareks then I can't see how nearly 100% of the flocks in the USA have Mareks unless it is as I stated earlier that it is possible for a bird to be a carrier without showing the full...
  2. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    I've only had to cut away comb damage once and I still used SHT after to seal the cut.
  3. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    It's really good for ripped combs and wattles.
  4. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    I used to be able to say something like that regarding sickness but some of the chickens are getting on in years and they don't fight off health problems like the youngsters. The last two to die here were 8 and 9 years old and developed reproductive disorders. It doesn't really matter what you...
  5. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    I use chlorhexadine to clean the wounds but my approach is to get injured birds back with their tribes as quickly as possible. The stress of being separated seems to depress them and consequently they don't recover as quickly. Correctly applied, SHT seals the wound and that's what I want. So...
  6. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    What I've found ( I may have just been lucky) is that with wounds, if you get them scrupulously clean straight after the attack and keep them clean then infection doesn't set in. Much to the horror of some no doubt I still use Stockholm Hoof Tar for a lot of wounds. I've probably used it around...
  7. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    I've used antibiotics on chickens 4 times in the last 10 years. All for injuries received from a Goshawk strike and all on the advice of my vet. In 3 cases the chicken lived.
  8. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    I just want to make this very clear in case someone who is actually trying to deal with Mareks and is interested in the science rather than the rhetoric, the emotional stories and other assorted nonsense. Of course, this is only what merkvetmanual has to say and we all know they haven't got a...
  9. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/neoplasms/marek-disease-in-poultry We have three types of vaccine available here. From the above article. Dust or dander from infected chickens is particularly effective in transmission. Once the virus is introduced into a chicken flock, regardless of...
  10. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    No I don't think I am. A lot will depend on how one defines contracting the disease. What I am saying is the birds while not showing any symptoms will be carriers. In order to give full coverage to all six to date identified stains of Mareks one would need to give six separate vaccines.
  11. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    You're avoiding the point. Vaccinations do not stop a bird from contracting the disease. What some vaccines may do is reduce the risk of full blown terminal Mareks. The birds are still carriers and can still pass the disease on to others.
  12. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    And then there is this. https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/antibiotics-will-soon-require-vet-prescription.1339565/page-19#post-21944085 The point of the legislation being introduced is to reduce if not prevent the use of antibiotics that have not been prescribed by a vet. And here we have...
  13. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    I guess we have different information. The information here is the vaccinations are not particularly effective. Mareks is like the other herpes viruses, it mutates. What a vaccine worked for before, may not be effective now. There are currently 6 identified strains of Mareks disease roughly...
  14. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    You have Mareks disease in your flock and you breed and show chickens. I do hope I've misunderstood this.
  15. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    There are National Park vets here, but they will only deal with wildlife. Most of those have a decent amount of avian experience. I haven't found anything like the RSPCA here though. The farmers and smallholders tend to know their local vets and when a vet visits for one thing they often get...
  16. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    I take it there is nothing like the British RSPCA in America? There are two "free" animal care organizations in the UK; can't think of the name of the other one. They ask for a donation. Some give, others..... It''s run as a charity I think. Some of their surgeries have avian vets. I took an owl...
  17. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    Are rabies vaccines available over the counter now?
  18. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    Will antibiotics work for rabies. Just asking because I can get them here.:D
  19. Shadrach

    Antibiotics will soon require vet prescription

    Need them or not you're going to get them.:) The regulations in Europe are getting tighter, but passing laws is one thing, enforcing them is another.
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