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  1. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    It doesn't happen right away, but about a year after being on FF, I've had hens begin laying again regularly that hadn't laid for a year or longer. And older layers keep laying into "old age". This week, an eight-year old Wyandotte in my flock laid two perfect eggs, her first of this new season...
  2. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    OMG! What an unappetizing soggy mess! And what the heck is that white scum on top of the water layer? I've never in the years I've been fermenting seen anything like that. Yuck. You shouldn't take as scripture just any old video you see on the internet. These sorts of folks aren't helping you...
  3. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    Half a cup of FF per day per chicken has ended up being precisely what my chickens consume even if I have dished out extra. And I have never seen them over-eating, either.
  4. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    It's tempting to just feed dry crumbles when it's zero degrees. Today the FF was freezing in minutes, before the flock had a chance to finish it. I made three trips out to replenish the frozen solid FF with fresh from the buckets in the house, and I slapped myself upside the head. For heaven's...
  5. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    Regarding FF that's frozen before the chickens can finish it, I plug in a cookie tin water warmer and place the FF on top to keep it soft. My chickens give up trying to hack away at it if the FF gets frozen. I also bring my fermentation buckets in from the garage in winter. It doesn't get...
  6. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    You want bad smell? Try fermenting Feather Fixer. OMG. What a mistake that was.
  7. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    I have been meaning to stop by and report how my flock has been doing on FF after being on it for around two years now. One word. Splendid. Not long after I started my flock on FF, I found out they are carrying the LL virus. That's lymphotic leucosis, a cancer virus that has many symptoms and...
  8. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    Good point, if this Ultra kibble isn't a regular feed it wouldn't ferment like regular feed. But surely something in it has grain origins, and that ought to ferment. I just returned home with the babies. I forgot how tiny they are at two days old. They're mostly hovering under the heating pad...
  9. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    No fermentation is happening in this chick feed. I've been fermenting for going on two years and this batch is definitely a dud. No bubbling at all. Just wet feed. Is it wiser to chuck this mess than risk feeding three day old wet slop? These chicks are going to be stressed and I don't want...
  10. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    Thanks for the response. I'll give it more time. Tonight, still no ferment "zing", so I added a spoon full of the big chickens' FF "soup" to try to give it a jump. Maybe by morning it'll have a different smell other than wet chick starter. I'm really looking forward to picking up my new...
  11. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    My FF using chick feed doesn't seem to be fermenting. I started it two days ago so it should have the FF tang by now. I read the ingredients and it includes animal proteins in the form of fish and salmon meal. Is that why it's not fermenting? My chicks will be here in the morning and I am...
  12. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    She's still tattered and frayed. I got excited when I saw two feathers near her perch this morning, but I have since concluded there was no significance to it. Still waiting to see some improvement. But her ordeal hasn't seemed to have emotionally harmed her.
  13. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    I have a question about baby chicks and FF. Do you ferment chick starter? Or is the flock raiser I ferment for the rest of the flock adequate for baby chicks? Also, I vaguely recall reading something about some flock owners "immunizing" their chicks by exposing them to soil that the flock has...
  14. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    Both Alice and I came through her ordeal okay. She joined the others in the coop at night fall last night. She's definitely nutrient stressed right now. Her poop is showing bile. She's eating okay, though. I just wish I could get some vitamins into her without having to feed every other member...
  15. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    I know her feathers are curling outward like a frizzle, but she's a standard Wyandotte. Her feathers are narrow, too, not fully developed. It's very strange. She's doing okay in her dark cage. I just peeked at her. She has water, and was standing, so I think she can see well enough to drink it...
  16. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    Thanks for the reassurance, hennible. I'll give it a shot, as you say. I guess one day won't be too upsetting to her. I'll check on her frequently to make sure she isn't in distress.
  17. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    Thanks, Hennible. Has anyone heard of placing a chicken stuck in molt into a dark cage for 24 hours to induce a new molt? Someone over on my cross-post on the Emergencies forum suggested this. I've since been reading a bit about inducing molt in this fashion, and now I'm beginning to doubt that...
  18. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    No, my FF is as dry as I can make it. When it begins to tend toward soupy, I add dry crumbles to it in the evening so next morning it's the right consistency again, about the same as thick, lumpy oatmeal. These butts are beyond having dusting remove the filth. Some have accumulated such a...
  19. azygous

    FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

    The feathers that have emerged appear stunted and narrow, not fully formed, and they do seem to twist. Parasites don't appear to be a problem. I've had the flock tested before for worms, and I've never seen any, and I keep a close eye on the poop for signs of ill health. And the crawling...
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