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I have a BBB hen with a std. Bronze tom and for a bit I thought they had black head. But it turned out it was fowl pox. I am relieved and they have completely recovered. I am trying to get some fertile eggs but so far my tom is doing everything wrong. I hope he gets if figured out soon!

All my turkey are very sweet but my favorite is this BBB hen.
 
chickadoodles said:
I have a BBB hen with a std. Bronze tom and for a bit I thought they had black head. But it turned out it was fowl pox. I am relieved and they have completely recovered. I am trying to get some fertile eggs but so far my tom is doing everything wrong. I hope he gets if figured out soon!

All my turkey are very sweet but my favorite is this BBB hen.
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I hope you get some eggs to hatch from your BBB. They gave me a ton of eggs, but not one hatched. I had fertile eggs using a BBB tom and a BR tom. They wouldn't even start. If I wasn't seeing the bullseye, I would have thought they weren't fertile. I gave those girls to a friend and she finally managed to get one poult last year.
 
gevshiba said:
Quote: I have had her on a diet for quite sometime hoping for some poult's off her. I did eat a couple to check for fertility. But they are not fertile. I tried putting a BR tom in with her yesterday and fenced off the Bronze so he could watch how it is done but the BR tom was to small to get the job done. So I guess I will see if my Bronze learned anything new! lol This is so crazy!
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According to the SOP, Royal Palms at mature Tom weight are only a pound heavier than midget whites. What they lack in size, they make up for in total kewlness in the way they look.
 
chknoodles said:
According to the SOP, Royal Palms at mature Tom weight are only a pound heavier than midget whites. What they lack in size, they make up for in total kewlness in the way they look.
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Bigger frame but yes, Royal Palms are very light. The positive there is that they can fly very well. Not as good as Merriams or other wild types but Royal Palms are very easy to keep because they look awesome and roost securely.
 
Seeking advice please.

I have 3 midget whites. A hen, a tom and a jake. The 2 guys strut and fight for the hen each morning and evening, but most of the time they are friends and hang out together. The 2 older birds are the parents of the younger.

My first question is: should I sell/rehome the jake so he will be happier with opportunities to mate? If so what would I sell him for?

My second question is: will there be a problem genetically if the jake mates its mother?

thank you
 
The babies wouldn't be born with three wings but anytime you breed offspring back to the parent, you're going to get stronger traits (both good and bad). A lot of times, recessive weaknesses will come to the surface as well. I would suggest butchering the jake or selling him. Not because they fight but I personally don't want to weaken my stock with inbreeding.
 
JJSS89 said:
The babies wouldn't be born with three wings but anytime you breed offspring back to the parent, you're going to get stronger traits (both good and bad). A lot of times, recessive weaknesses will come to the surface as well. I would suggest butchering the jake or selling him. Not because they fight but I personally don't want to weaken my stock with inbreeding.
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Good information. Thanks so much.

I will try to sell him. In the meantime I may not let the eggs hatch. I took the last clutch of eggs and replaced them with chicken eggs. The hen is ready to mate again. A wonderful mother and breeder.
As I think about it, I don't really know the relationship of the hen and tom. I bought them from the same place. That could be why the survival rate of the babies was so poor. I thought it was that turkeys were not as hardy as chickens.
 
JJSS89 said:
The babies wouldn't be born with three wings but anytime you breed offspring back to the parent, you're going to get stronger traits (both good and bad). A lot of times, recessive weaknesses will come to the surface as well. I would suggest butchering the jake or selling him. Not because they fight but I personally don't want to weaken my stock with inbreeding.
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Attila the Hen said:
Good information. Thanks so much.

I will try to sell him. In the meantime I may not let the eggs hatch. I took the last clutch of eggs and replaced them with chicken eggs. The hen is ready to mate again. A wonderful mother and breeder.
As I think about it, I don't really know the relationship of the hen and tom. I bought them from the same place. That could be why the survival rate of the babies was so poor. I thought it was that turkeys were not as hardy as chickens.
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Breeding the jake back to his mother would be fine. It is technically not called inbreeding it is called line breeding and is the most common way to breed. By doing this you are not weakening your stock you are actually, if breeding well, strengthening your stock. Breeding mother to son, father to daughter, aunt to nephew, uncle to niece, is all fine and is the best way to bring out the best qualities and lock them in. On occasion line breeding will also bring out traits you dont want or recessive genes will pop up and you need to cull for those. It is best to be avoid sibling mating though. You could bring in new blood every couple of years if you feel you need to.
 

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