➡I accidentally bought Balut eggs: 2 live ducks! Now a Chat Thread!

Aw, so cute!

They're both piebald. The male is considered bicolor because the tabby pattern is a color with agouti striping, not two colors. My Ziggy, therefore, is considered a single color. Your Pomme Tom would look like him except for the addition of a gene that makes him mostly white with patches of color.

Females recieve two color genes (one from each parent) rather than a single color gene from mom as the males do. So, only females can be calico. For a male to be calico, there has to be a freak genetic event that usually results in an unhealthy and sterile animal.
Thank you. That really helps me understand the coloring on Hazel and Pomme Tom!

Oh wow you really have done your research!! Haha this is fascinating. Thanks.



OMG really!? :eek: :th do any other horses eat it? Do they waste any? Or are they eating all that? OMG. Horses are pigs. :lau



Thanks!! This is all really helpful.

I didn’t realize first cut was so bad. I guess that’s why it’s cheaper?

And thanks, that makes sense. I agree about the lesson barn thing. So many have tons crammed into mud pits. Seems kinda cruel to me. Although there are some around here that do have fields and green grass haha

And a little pen behind the house seems mean too.

I’ll get pictures of our yard. It’s probably nowhere near enough but it’s way bigger than what I’ve seen most kept in around here so I think they could be happy being out there grazing and running around, even if it wasn’t enough grass to sustain them nutritionally and I had to buy more hay. But idk.

And hmmm.... that makes sense... they do seem to be a giant money pit :lau

Which is extremely disappointing because I’ve always wanted horses. Haha

Maybe one day I can though if I get enough land that they can just eat the grass haha
A neighbor has 13 wooded acres with 5 horses. One is a Clydsdale with a new filly. He feeds a bagged feed that supposedly replaces the need for hay/grazing. The grass ground is covered in weeds that he doesn't cut or spray to improve the grass. There are huge bare spots. The fences are barbed wire not fit for holding any livestock. Need I say more?

You have zero drive. Don't you want something out of life? To be somebody. You need to start building credit aswell if you want practically anything out of life. Don't sell yourself short have confidence that you can and you will. In life you get exactly what you give it's on you and only you to decide if you want to be a productive citizen or just exist
I liked your comment because I sense you and I share the same frustration and want to reach through the Internet to grasp @KDOGG331 by her shoulders and shake her today.
Perhaps your comments are jogging her sense of reality and she will do a quick self search.

I'm going to add my comments to her next post right after I take the dogs out and feed my chickens and ducks. I want to think about how to respond to her post.

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That is not true at all. Just because I don’t want to work in some crap office job for the rest of my life or be a lawyer or doctor or be famous or something doesn’t mean I have zero drive. It might not seem like it but working with animals is a perfectly legitimate profession and starting your own business is hard work. If I wanted to go nowhere, I would go get a job at McDonalds or something and stay there. But instead I’m trying to start my own business. I have wanted to work with animals my entire life ever since I was little and for me, this is a dream field. I know it seems stupid or like a dead end job to most but I love animals and honestly I’d rather be happy than being stuck doing something I hate even if it makes me way more money. That said, I think I am going to try to get more into the training side of it than just sitting/walking or boarding because that is more of a career, but I would be happy with either. And I would get plenty out of life from it. I’m sure as heck not gonna get anything from life sitting behind a desk or flipping burgers. I’d rather be happy than be a billionaire. And just because I want to work with animals doesn’t mean I’m a nobody. That’s literally ridiculous?

I have lots of goals, yeah, but they mostly stem around animals. Honestly I would be perfectly happy living in some trailer or even a tent as long as I was on plenty of land and had my animals. Not saying I’m gonna do that, I’ll probably get a real house eventually, but honestly all I really want is to have at least 10 acres, preferably closer to 20 or more, and be able to have a little homestead with various poultry and maybe goats and a nice vegetable garden and orchard. And of course a dog. I don’t need much to be happy and definitely don’t want to be rich. But I do realize that I am going to need money to pay for this which is why I’m looking for a real job somewhere where I can stay a while and save. And eventually I would probably run the boarding and training business out of the property too. I want to have my own facility eventually. I know these seem like stupid goals to you or most people but it’s what would make me happy. And I can earn a living from it. Plenty of people do. And it is a necessary field. Somebody has to do it.

My immediate goal though is to just save enough to move out of this house so I don’t get stuck here forever.

As for credit, I actually have pretty good credit right now as it is because I do have a credit card but I am working on bettering it.

And I guess that’s probably true but honestly they’re mostly hiring kids at most of these places.

And working in the pet field, or any other more obscure field for that matter, is plenty productive and necessary and way more than just existing.

That said, I will admit that, yes, I am on here or otherwise on the phone most of the time currently or driving around that’s definitely a problem and I can easily see how that could be taken as zero drive cause yeah, currently, I kinda do, but that’s only because I’ve been in a bit of a funk a while, which I am now actively working to get out of. Doesn’t mean I have no drive. Just can’t access atm. But I am working on it and have been way more productive lately and am actively working on bettering myself so the job search/business starting is next. After finally doing all the stuff I have to do around here first.
prove me wrong
I hope you took offense
 
Thank you. That really helps me understand the coloring on Hazel and Pomme Tom!


A neighbor has 13 wooded acres with 5 horses. One is a Clydsdale with a new filly. He feeds a bagged feed that supposedly replaces the need for hay/grazing. The grass ground is covered in weeds that he doesn't cut or spray to improve the grass. There are huge bare spots. The fences are barbed wire not fit for holding any livestock. Need I say more?


I liked your comment because I sense you and I share the same frustration and want to reach through the Internet to grasp @KDOGG331 by her shoulders and shake her today.
Perhaps your comments are jogging her sense of reality and she will do a quick self search.

I'm going to add my comments to her next post right after I take the dogs out and feed my. Hickens and ducks. I want to think about how to respond to her post.

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I'll be waiting make it good too!
 
That is not true at all. Just because I don’t want to work in some crap office job for the rest of my life or be a lawyer or doctor or be famous or something doesn’t mean I have zero drive. It might not seem like it but working with animals is a perfectly legitimate profession and starting your own business is hard work. If I wanted to go nowhere, I would go get a job at McDonalds or something and stay there. But instead I’m trying to start my own business. I have wanted to work with animals my entire life ever since I was little and for me, this is a dream field. I know it seems stupid or like a dead end job to most but I love animals and honestly I’d rather be happy than being stuck doing something I hate even if it makes me way more money. That said, I think I am going to try to get more into the training side of it than just sitting/walking or boarding because that is more of a career, but I would be happy with either. And I would get plenty out of life from it. I’m sure as heck not gonna get anything from life sitting behind a desk or flipping burgers. I’d rather be happy than be a billionaire. And just because I want to work with animals doesn’t mean I’m a nobody. That’s literally ridiculous?

I have lots of goals, yeah, but they mostly stem around animals. Honestly I would be perfectly happy living in some trailer or even a tent as long as I was on plenty of land and had my animals. Not saying I’m gonna do that, I’ll probably get a real house eventually, but honestly all I really want is to have at least 10 acres, preferably closer to 20 or more, and be able to have a little homestead with various poultry and maybe goats and a nice vegetable garden and orchard. And of course a dog. I don’t need much to be happy and definitely don’t want to be rich. But I do realize that I am going to need money to pay for this which is why I’m looking for a real job somewhere where I can stay a while and save. And eventually I would probably run the boarding and training business out of the property too. I want to have my own facility eventually. I know these seem like stupid goals to you or most people but it’s what would make me happy. And I can earn a living from it. Plenty of people do. And it is a necessary field. Somebody has to do it.

My immediate goal though is to just save enough to move out of this house so I don’t get stuck here forever.

As for credit, I actually have pretty good credit right now as it is because I do have a credit card but I am working on bettering it.

And I guess that’s probably true but honestly they’re mostly hiring kids at most of these places.

And working in the pet field, or any other more obscure field for that matter, is plenty productive and necessary and way more than just existing.

That said, I will admit that, yes, I am on here or otherwise on the phone most of the time currently or driving around that’s definitely a problem and I can easily see how that could be taken as zero drive cause yeah, currently, I kinda do, but that’s only because I’ve been in a bit of a funk a while, which I am now actively working to get out of. Doesn’t mean I have no drive. Just can’t access atm. But I am working on it and have been way more productive lately and am actively working on bettering myself so the job search/business starting is next. After finally doing all the stuff I have to do around here first.
One credit card doesn't do much for a credit score.
You will never get a loan for a car or a house if you can't prove you have steady income.

At some point you have to stop thinking about doing and just do it.
 
That is not true at all. Just because I don’t want to work in some crap office job for the rest of my life or be a lawyer or doctor or be famous or something doesn’t mean I have zero drive. It might not seem like it but working with animals is a perfectly legitimate profession and starting your own business is hard work. If I wanted to go nowhere, I would go get a job at McDonalds or something and stay there. But instead I’m trying to start my own business. I have wanted to work with animals my entire life ever since I was little and for me, this is a dream field. I know it seems stupid or like a dead end job to most but I love animals and honestly I’d rather be happy than being stuck doing something I hate even if it makes me way more money. That said, I think I am going to try to get more into the training side of it than just sitting/walking or boarding because that is more of a career, but I would be happy with either. And I would get plenty out of life from it. I’m sure as heck not gonna get anything from life sitting behind a desk or flipping burgers. I’d rather be happy than be a billionaire. And just because I want to work with animals doesn’t mean I’m a nobody. That’s literally ridiculous?

I have lots of goals, yeah, but they mostly stem around animals. Honestly I would be perfectly happy living in some trailer or even a tent as long as I was on plenty of land and had my animals. Not saying I’m gonna do that, I’ll probably get a real house eventually, but honestly all I really want is to have at least 10 acres, preferably closer to 20 or more, and be able to have a little homestead with various poultry and maybe goats and a nice vegetable garden and orchard. And of course a dog. I don’t need much to be happy and definitely don’t want to be rich. But I do realize that I am going to need money to pay for this which is why I’m looking for a real job somewhere where I can stay a while and save. And eventually I would probably run the boarding and training business out of the property too. I want to have my own facility eventually. I know these seem like stupid goals to you or most people but it’s what would make me happy. And I can earn a living from it. Plenty of people do. And it is a necessary field. Somebody has to do it.

My immediate goal though is to just save enough to move out of this house so I don’t get stuck here forever.

As for credit, I actually have pretty good credit right now as it is because I do have a credit card but I am working on bettering it.

And I guess that’s probably true but honestly they’re mostly hiring kids at most of these places.

And working in the pet field, or any other more obscure field for that matter, is plenty productive and necessary and way more than just existing.

That said, I will admit that, yes, I am on here or otherwise on the phone most of the time currently or driving around that’s definitely a problem and I can easily see how that could be taken as zero drive cause yeah, currently, I kinda do, but that’s only because I’ve been in a bit of a funk a while, which I am now actively working to get out of. Doesn’t mean I have no drive. Just can’t access atm. But I am working on it and have been way more productive lately and am actively working on bettering myself so the job search/business starting is next. After finally doing all the stuff I have to do around here first.
I never said working with animals as a profession was stupid.
 
@KDOGG331, I have spent the past several hours considering how to respond to your post in response to @sdm111 's straight forward approach to jostle you into some self-search and some meaningful encouragement.
I shared that same frustration today. This response may take me a while to type.

First let me say that there is not a single person who frequents this chat on a regular basis who has not been supportive of your goals. And many have kindly offered support for your many concerns, projects, and your highs and lows. We all have baggage...some is more neatly packed than others.
Many of us have come to appreciate your friendly compassion, research skills and sense of humor.
While sometimes your "novels" have been lengthy and contain way "tmi" for me, you offer genuine enthusiasm.

In reading your response post, Kelsey after your initial defensive reaction, you did do some soul searching and some clarification which I expected.

Second, hanging in my school office was a quote
"If you always do what you have always done;
you will always be what you have always been."
It is one thing to talk our dreams, it takes real action to make them reality.
You have three admirable goals that you have frequently shared:
1) Start a business working with animals
2) Earn enough money to move out on your own and eventually purchase land
3) Maintain a healthy lifestyle
These goals need to be divided into smaller achieveable steps.
What you have forgotten is that making dreams reality requires a written plan and finances.
Sometimes we have to sacrifice and work a part-time job outside our dream field to pay for the little steps we take along the way.
As Sdm111 stated "Don't sell yourself short have confidence that you can and you will.".
You won't be applying for a job in a field you hate and it won't be for a long term....doesn't even have to be a full-time job.

Third, I'm willing to start a private message with you about your goals. I can offer years of experience.

That is not true at all. Just because I don’t want to work in some crap office job for the rest of my life or be a lawyer or doctor or be famous or something doesn’t mean I have zero drive. It might not seem like it but working with animals is a perfectly legitimate profession and starting your own business is hard work. If I wanted to go nowhere, I would go get a job at McDonalds or something and stay there. But instead I’m trying to start my own business. I have wanted to work with animals my entire life ever since I was little and for me, this is a dream field. I know it seems stupid or like a dead end job to most but I love animals and honestly I’d rather be happy than being stuck doing something I hate even if it makes me way more money. That said, I think I am going to try to get more into the training side of it than just sitting/walking or boarding because that is more of a career, but I would be happy with either. And I would get plenty out of life from it. I’m sure as heck not gonna get anything from life sitting behind a desk or flipping burgers. I’d rather be happy than be a billionaire. And just because I want to work with animals doesn’t mean I’m a nobody. That’s literally ridiculous?

I have lots of goals, yeah, but they mostly stem around animals. Honestly I would be perfectly happy living in some trailer or even a tent as long as I was on plenty of land and had my animals. Not saying I’m gonna do that, I’ll probably get a real house eventually, but honestly all I really want is to have at least 10 acres, preferably closer to 20 or more, and be able to have a little homestead with various poultry and maybe goats and a nice vegetable garden and orchard. And of course a dog. I don’t need much to be happy and definitely don’t want to be rich. But I do realize that I am going to need money to pay for this which is why I’m looking for a real job somewhere where I can stay a while and save. And eventually I would probably run the boarding and training business out of the property too. I want to have my own facility eventually. I know these seem like stupid goals to you or most people but it’s what would make me happy. And I can earn a living from it. Plenty of people do. And it is a necessary field. Somebody has to do it.

My immediate goal though is to just save enough to move out of this house so I don’t get stuck here forever.

As for credit, I actually have pretty good credit right now as it is because I do have a credit card but I am working on bettering it.

And I guess that’s probably true but honestly they’re mostly hiring kids at most of these places.

And working in the pet field, or any other more obscure field for that matter, is plenty productive and necessary and way more than just existing.

That said, I will admit that, yes, I am on here or otherwise on the phone most of the time currently or driving around that’s definitely a problem and I can easily see how that could be taken as zero drive cause yeah, currently, I kinda do, but that’s only because I’ve been in a bit of a funk a while, which I am now actively working to get out of. Doesn’t mean I have no drive. Just can’t access atm. But I am working on it and have been way more productive lately and am actively working on bettering myself so the job search/business starting is next. After finally doing all the stuff I have to do around here first.
 
@KDOGG331, I have spent the past several hours considering how to respond to your post in response to @sdm111 's straight forward approach to jostle you into some self-search and some meaningful encouragement.
I shared that same frustration today. This response may take me a while to type.

First let me say that there is not a single person who frequents this chat on a regular basis who has not been supportive of your goals. And many have kindly offered support for your many concerns, projects, and your highs and lows. We all have baggage...some is more neatly packed than others.
Many of us have come to appreciate your friendly compassion, research skills and sense of humor.
While sometimes your "novels" have been lengthy and contain way "tmi" for me, you offer genuine enthusiasm.

In reading your response post, Kelsey after your initial defensive reaction, you did do some soul searching and some clarification which I expected.

Second, hanging in my school office was a quote
"If you always do what you have always done;
you will always be what you have always been."
It is one thing to talk our dreams, it takes real action to make them reality.
You have three admirable goals that you have frequently shared:
1) Start a business working with animals
2) Earn enough money to move out on your own and eventually purchase land
3) Maintain a healthy lifestyle
These goals need to be divided into smaller achieveable steps.
What you have forgotten is that making dreams reality requires a written plan and finances.
Sometimes we have to sacrifice and work a part-time job outside our dream field to pay for the little steps we take along the way.
As Sdm111 stated "Don't sell yourself short have confidence that you can and you will.".
You won't be applying for a job in a field you hate and it won't be for a long term....doesn't even have to be a full-time job.

Third, I'm willing to start a private message with you about your goals. I can offer years of experience.
sometimes you gotta keep it real cause life's real. You can't sit around waiting for opportunity to fall in your lap and happen cause it won't. If you want it go get it. To start your own company you need to start small and acquire your clientele through years of building yourself in your chosen field and becoming known and having your name out there with a good reputation. As you're building it you need to have a steady income to make ends meet and eventually go out on your own. To throw a sign up on the street and wait for clients to bust down your door is a recipe for disaster
 

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