A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[R2elk]

Anybody know the genotype (or whatever its called) for black spanish turkeys? or norfolk black ? or black? or whatever they are called.

BB and everything else stays the same.

 

[Chaos18]

Thanks guys

 

[duluthralphie]

Is there a difference between a black Spanish, Norfolk black and a regular old black turkey?

I have been spending lots of time on the calculator and on Porters turkey genetics 101 and I have to admit the more I learn the more confused I get..

 

[Chaos18]

Is there a difference between a black Spanish, Norfolk black and a regular old black turkey?

I have been spending lots of time on the calculator and on Porters turkey genetics 101 and I have to admit the more I learn the more confused I get..

I think they are all names for roughly the same color turkey.

 

[R2elk]

Is there a difference between a black Spanish, Norfolk black and a regular old black turkey?

I have been spending lots of time on the calculator and on Porters turkey genetics 101 and I have to admit the more I learn the more confused I get..

Black Spanish and Norfolk Black to my knowledge are the same turkeys with Norfolk Black coming from a specific area. The black created by a Blue Slate to Blue Slate mating is not the same as the Black Spanish/Norfolk Black.

However for the purpose of Porter's turkey color calculator they are all the same because it is only for calculating colors. This is why for the use of the calculator, all "wild" turkeys are bronzes even though there are differences between Rios, Merriam's and Eastern Wilds and others and the normal heritage bronze.

 

[duluthralphie]

Black Spanish and Norfolk Black to my knowledge are the same turkeys with Norfolk Black coming from a specific area. The black created by a Blue Slate to Blue Slate mating is not the same as the Black Spanish/Norfolk Black.

However for the purpose of Porter's turkey color calculator they are all the same because it is only for calculating colors. This is why for the use of the calculator, all "wild" turkeys are bronzes even though there are differences between Rios, Merriam's and Eastern Wilds and others and the normal heritage bronze.

The color calculator is just that. You are crossing breeds? Are there different breeds? I have heard some say they are all one breed with just variation in colors, is that right or wrong?

It almost seems "breeds" are kind of arbitrary. Even with chickens, take my Creamettes, They have leghorn and I have no idea what in their background. Yet they are considered a breed.


If I cross my Creamettes with a Barred rock can I just decide it is a new breed?

If Ginger was to live (which he will not) and I crossed him with another like him eventually making a blind strain of turkeys could I call them a breed?

 

[Coffee 1st]

Ralphie you can have all the eggs you want. I don't plan on breeding them if babies are born then great. I will probably only keep hens. If boys are born they will go to freezer. And I will probably here and there get other hens for Porter just to keep things new for him.. Ohh what a Turkeys life.. New young hens every so often ,, yep Porter will love his momma..

 

[duluthralphie]

I am sure you will become as attached to Porter as I ma to JJ. I am sorry you did not get to name him. BUT that is the way it goes, JJ was named when I got him.


BTW do you want an eating turkey? Real soon, maybe Saturday or Sunday I am going to send the rest to camp. They have ticked me off for the last time! Penguin is headed to the smoker!

 

[Chaos18]

I WANT SOME SMOKED PENGUIN!!!!!! Sounds so yummy.

 

[Lozuufy]

The color calculator is just that. You are crossing breeds? Are there different breeds? I have heard some say they are all one breed with just variation in colors, is that right or wrong?

It almost seems "breeds" are kind of arbitrary. Even with chickens, take my Creamettes, They have leghorn and I have no idea what in their background. Yet they are considered a breed.


If I cross my Creamettes with a Barred rock can I just decide it is a new breed?

If Ginger was to live (which he will not) and I crossed him with another like him eventually making a blind strain of turkeys could I call them a breed?

I bet the new blind turkey breed would be a great hit, everyone would want one!

(Ok, now not joking anymore

) I am gonna breed a Chocolate CCL that lays olive eggs... just for fun cause I like having unique colored birds. I have found a chocolate cuckoo orpington nearby and might get him. Just have to get some CCL hens now and then hatch out some eggs!

Oh yeah and Creamettes crossed with barred rock I am pretty sure will all look like barred rocks first generation... the EE (extended black) gene in chickens appears to be dominant....