A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[memphis]

Are you sending them the pictures or do they want the actual feather? Poor Ginger!

My girls are growing new feathers. On their necks, faces, breasts & bellys. When do they grow new tails?

 

[Chaos18]

Copper your getting way beyond me now! SLOW DOWN!!! LOL I am just a parrot repeating what I learn on the porter site, and of course this parrot is slightly dyslexic so nothing is ever quite right... I have officially ticked off Ginger tonight. They wanted a feather from his back to see if it was blue based or black based, I saw neither. I had to pull the feather from his back, He did not like the idea at all! I waited until he was roosting to do it, but he still noticed me pull it. I was sure as soon as I pulled it out I heard Ginger say " Belly Button!". Beings I took picture of it you all might as well see Ginger's feather.

Did he give you the middle toe as well?

 

[memphis]

.

 

[Chaos18]

All the genes in a sweetgrass and royal palm are recessive, the toms of a cross would be : b1b1 cgcg ng/N and the hens are regular sweetgrass. If you crossed the hybrid tom to a royal palm you would get pure royals and pure sweetgrass hens but the tom sweetgrass will be like their father: b1b1 cgcg ng/N

Also if you crossed the hyrid tom thats b1b1 cgcg ng/N with pure sweetgrass hen (say his sister from same hatch) would you get all pure sweetgrass? Or would somebody still have an ng/N stuck in there genes?

 

[memphis]

Chaos...I don't know. I know with my dogs, their get can inherite a recessive gene from a parent.

 

[duluthralphie]

I am not sure what you are asking Chaos, but if I understand you, you want to know what gene shows if they are both recessive?

Then the recessive shows. Genes as I understand can either be dominant to express or not express itself, Recessive just go along for the ride, if there is no dominant then they act like they are dominant.


I also know dogs somewhat better than turkeys. Labs to be specific. There are 2 genes that control the color of a lab.

B is black
b is recessive brown\

E is ability to express the black or brown
e is inability to express the color black or brown.

I have a white ;lab ( yellow) she is BB ee So she is actually a black lab that cannot express black fur, Her skin is black as is her nose.

I bred her to a Chocolate lab and I have a pup from the mating, He was bb EE He was brown and had one E so he could express himself.

I thought I would get Black white and brown pups from them, I got all black as none as they all ended up Bb Ee. However, the pups can now have all three colors. When put on the Punnett square you get the results/

Turkeys I think are about the same.

 

[Chaos18]

I decided to go mess with the calculator myself...again...so as to not further muddy the waters. It seems if you do a Sweetgrass tom (b1b1 cgcg dd EE NN RR SlSl SpSp PnPn) over a Royal Palm hen (b1b1 cgcg dd E- n- RR SlSl SpSp PnPn) you will get pure Sweetgrass hens and Sweetgrass toms that are (split: Narragansett(n)). It seems no matter what male and female combo you work with when breeding royal palms and sweetgrass only the sweetgrass toms will have a chance of being (split: Narragansett(n)). So here's another question than. Why would only some of the sweetgrass toms be (split: Narragansett(n)) and not all of them and why only the toms?

 

[Chaos18]

Have I thoroughly confused everybody yet?

 

[duluthralphie]

If I read that correctly, then Copper was right the cg must be sex linked or recessive? I am just guessing here. Copper Help?

A female is WZ a male is ZZ, So if the cg attaches to the W only it would only appear in females. Is that right Copper? If it is recessive and attaches to the W whatever is dominant would take over, but then it should be written CG. so I am guessing it is the former?



Now did I really confuse everyone?

 

[memphis]

If inheritance of genes is sex linked in turkeys , then I'm over my head. I don't see that in my dogs. That's the base of my experience with recessive inheritance. This conversation is interesting. Maybe Copper knows, or Ralph can ask his new BFF.