A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[Chaos18]

Here's another genotype question for peoples to think about. When you have two two of two different genotypes (lets use JJ and Ethel) how do they make so many different color options for babies? If certain genes are dominant wouldn't all the babies get the dominant genes?

 

[Chaos18]

Copper. ...what cross are you incubating? Do you light your coop to get your hens to lay?

Fiesty, I have a short clip on my phone of my turkeys running. Never fails to crack up my friends. Of course they all think I've lost my mind.

Chaos. ..what did you decide to get for hens?

So far I'm thinking of getting three. Probably get two royal palm mixes and if the mottled black the lady has is a hen will see if I can get her as well. Either that or one royal palm mix, one mottled black and one blue slate........or one royal palm and one mottled black.......or two royal palm mixes........or....

so many choices

 

[memphis]

Chaos...I'm thinking turkey math is worse than chicken math! The mottled blacks are beautiful, hope she's a hen! Are you getting close on the new pen? Is T-Bone the only tom you have right now.

Fiesty. ..I'm not getting an incubator. I don't trust myself!

 

[memphis]

Chaos, I'm mulling over your genotype question. My experience is limited to dogs. Email Kevin Porter! Seems he's pretty good about helping folks understand turkey genetics!

 

[Chaos18]

Chaos...I'm thinking turkey math is worse than chicken math! The mottled blacks are beautiful, hope she's a hen! Are you getting close on the new pen? Is T-Bone the only tom you have right now.

Fiesty. ..I'm not getting an incubator. I don't trust myself!

T-Bone is my only turkey right now. The new pen is getting close. Still gotta slap on some paint and finish with the door.

 

[dheltzel]

Here's another genotype question for peoples to think about. When you have two two of two different genotypes (lets use JJ and Ethel) how do they make so many different color options for babies? If certain genes are dominant wouldn't all the babies get the dominant genes?

That would be true if all the genes involved were complete dominants in at least one of the parents, and fully autosomal (non-sexlinked), but that is not the case in you crosses you are looking at. The sexlinked genes (N and B) make the results different if you switch the sexes of the 2 parent colors, adding even more confusion.

 

[Chaos18]

That would be true if all the genes involved were complete dominants in at least one of the parents, and fully autosomal (non-sexlinked), but that is not the case in you crosses you are looking at. The sexlinked genes (N and B) make the results different if you switch the sexes of the 2 parent colors, adding even more confusion.

But how is it possible that one set of parents can have the possibility of six different color babies of both male and female?

 

[dheltzel]

But how is it possible that one set of parents can have the possibility of six different color babies of both male and female?

Give me the genotypes you punched into the calculator to get that and I will try to explain as best I can.

 

[Chaos18]

Give me the genotypes you punched into the calculator to get that and I will try to explain as best I can.

This is just a random pairing that shows what I was asking about.

Male
Bb CC dd EE NN RR SlSl SpSp PnPn
Barred Black
split: Bronze(b)

Female
Bb Ccg dd E- N- RR SlSl SpSp PnPn
Tri-color Mottled Black
split: Bronze(b)

 

[copper2]

Copper. ...what cross are you incubating? Do you light your coop to get your hens to lay?

Fiesty, I have a short clip on my phone of my turkeys running. Never fails to crack up my friends. Of course they all think I've lost my mind.

Chaos. ..what did you decide to get for hens?

No, I'm not using any lights.... I need to get electricity in the coop. The hen is a hybrid from earlier this year, I think her genotype is Bb Rr Ee, all though Mr.Belly Button might have a little bronze since he's showing barred wings.( Mr.Belly Button is her father and DH to the hen!)