Abatement notice

[Goosebaby]

@Goosebaby thank you for your support - do you remember my boys were in the national newspaper a few weeks ago? (They even made some foreign articles online too) I went back to the press agency which published it with these new events and they will be running a story tomorrow; in all honesty, i don't think that it will help me at all but im just looking for something.. anything at the moment...i think i should be able to visit them at the new place but its not the same....i would understand a little better if they were just "livestock" but theyre pets which have made a bond with me and I them.

I wish other people could understand, society is too disconnected with what they see as “farm animals” that they can’t see they are capable of emotion and bonds as much as any animal. I would think anyone with chickens would get that too but I guess I’m wrong. Your neighbors are asshats and no mistake.

 

[Leader Bee]

 

[Goosebaby]

Those documents mention noise making equipment, but that does not mention animals, is it possible you can look into this law? If the law doesn’t include animals when it was written then it doesn’t include animals and they can’t legally take them from you on the grounds of that particular law.

 

[Goosebaby]

If it does include animals then maybe I’m ruthless but all I can say is two can play that game. If I was in that situation I think I’d acquire the sudden inability to deal with the egg song.

 

[Leader Bee]

Haha, i wish i had the energy to be like that, but unfortunately the council here would also have to deem it a "statutory nuisance" before they got the same letter

 

[Ephyra]

That is terrible news. I'm so sorry. You should be able to appeal it, which might buy you time if nothing else. What about some sort of special permission to keep them - like getting them registered as emotional support animals? Not sure if you have that in the UK, but I've heard about plenty of people in North America getting permission on those grounds to keep animals that were not even allowed by law where they live. I agree completely with @Goosebaby - Don't go down without a fight.

Here's a case like yours. It was appealed and he won - there is hope!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4148264/Pensioner-86-wins-fight-noisy-geese.html

 

[The goose girl]

So sorry to learn this. I hope you'll find the energy to fight - and otherwise I'm really happy that you've already found a good home for your "noise making equipment". People are so narrow minded when it comes to anything anyone does the least bit different from how the majority does it. I doubt they even pause to register whether the goose noise affects them or not.

 

[Leader Bee]

Not sure if you have that in the UK, but I've heard about plenty of people in North America getting permission on those grounds to keep animals that were not even allowed by law where they live. I agree completely with @Goosebaby - Don't go down without a fight.

Interestingly I work at a mental health hospital so it shouldn't be that hard to just pull over one of the psychiatrists I work with to see if they'll sign Norbie and Beep off as ESA haha lol
I've seen this issue a lot on the BYC facebook group where people get very upset about "abusing ESA registration" just to be allowed to keep their animals - seems there are two camps of, yes i'd do anything to keep my babies and another of NO! you're abusing the system you naughty person go to bed without supper!

 

[Goosebaby]

Interestingly I work at a mental health hospital so it shouldn't be that hard to just pull over one of the psychiatrists I work with to see if they'll sign Norbie and Beep off as ESA haha lol
I've seen this issue a lot on the BYC facebook group where people get very upset about "abusing ESA registration" just to be allowed to keep their animals - seems there are two camps of, yes i'd do anything to keep my babies and another of NO! you're abusing the system you naughty person go to bed without supper!

I think people confuse ESA’s with working service animals like seeing eye dogs, those dogs often have multiple purposes like being an emotional support animal too but in a sense they are seperate, an ESA can be any creature because any creature can bond with a human and be a source of calm by grounding their human in the now. I think people forget what an esa is.

If someone’s placing an animal in an uncomfortable situation and claiming it as an esa just for the “wow look at me and my weird pet on a plane” effect then I would say some of those cases could be abusing the system but each situation has to be examined independently to see if that animal is unhappy and if their human is even using them in that capacity. A lot of people don’t understand that just because an animal is unconventional doesn’t make it less capable than a conventional species and a conventional species isn’t necessarily more capable of being an esa, a lot of dogs can be high anxiety basket cases.
So personally I think any species can be an esa.

 

[Leader Bee]

Not that it will do much but any help is appreciated - would y'all be willing to sign a petition someone has kindly set up on my behalf? Shared through facebook but thought the community here migth care as well

https://www.change.org/p/leeds-city...medium=email&utm_source=signature_receipt#_=_

Thanks!