Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[Saris]

I've got a solution for the EE/Ameracauna problem. Maybe 1/2 breeds are EE, and full-breed/not standard should just be called "Ameracauna-not standard" or something

I agree.

 

[Saris]

Here are 3 pullets I will be getting closer to spring. Blue hard feather, Lavender SiAm, and Black split to Lav SiAm. I'm trying to decide what color Roo to shop for at the moment. I'm thinking Lavender or chocolate.

 

[Percheron chick]

I've got a solution for the EE/Ameracauna problem.  Maybe 1/2 breeds are EE, and full-breed/not standard should just be called "Ameracauna-not standard" or something

why complicate things? It either is or isn't. There is already too much confusion. If one understands the difference, they should be doing what they can to educate those that don't have a grasp of the ameraucana/EE debate. Follow the lead of the ABC.

 

[sherrihargrove]

I love mine, very social and lay beautiful blue and green eggs.

 

[bruceha2000]

One thing I find bizarre in the Ameraucana breed is that they only have to breed true > 50% of the time to be considered "pure". That means nearly half the offspring for a pair of "pure" Ameraucanas can turn out to be EEs. Sounds to me like the gene pool is pretty polluted if they don't breed true all, or almost all, of the time. Is this the case for other breeds of chickens? Do Black Australorps, Barred Rocks, RIRs, etc etc etc only breed true ~50%??

 

[pips&peeps]

This was set in place for the blue gene - nothing to do with birds that don't meet the standard.

Blue X Black = 50% blue, 50% black

Blue X Blue = 50% blue, 25% black, 25% splash

 

[Ravynscroft]

One thing I find bizarre in the Ameraucana breed is that they only have to breed true > 50% of the time to be considered "pure". That means nearly half the offspring for a pair of "pure" Ameraucanas can turn out to be EEs. Sounds to me like the gene pool is pretty polluted if they don't breed true all, or almost all, of the time. Is this the case for other breeds of chickens? Do Black Australorps, Barred Rocks, RIRs, etc etc etc only breed true ~50%??

That is an APA rule, not a rule specific to any breed... any breed to get accepted has to breed true at least 50% of the time... and what the APA sees as breeding true is more strict than you think... it's just the controversy brings more attention to Ameraucanas in that aspect...

Actually, RIR breeders get just as ruffled over Production Reds being called RIR... and many hatcheries sell those as RIR and they are not true Heritage... it's there, it's just that the popularity surge for colored egg layers makes this issues seen more than others...

 

[bruceha2000]

Thanks for the clarification. Guess I've only seen it related to Ameraucanas since there is that whole "hatchery Ameraucana" thing that I researched after I ordered my 2 from Ideal in 2012 and then learned here that there are Ameraucanas and there are EEs and they aren't the same.

 

[scflock]

Thanks for the clarification. Guess I've only seen it related to Ameraucanas since there is that whole "hatchery Ameraucana" thing that I researched after I ordered my 2 from Ideal in 2012 and then learned here that there are Ameraucanas and there are EEs and they aren't the same.

Maybe Ravyn can explain again where the confusion comes from. She can explain it much better than I can, because she has been dealing with them for much longer, but it was something along the lines of EEs were Ameraucanas before the APA set guidelines for the breed. I know that doesn't make sense, but she knows what I'm saying

 

[Ravynscroft]

Maybe Ravyn can explain again where the confusion comes from. She can explain it much better than I can, because she has been dealing with them for much longer, but it was something along the lines of EEs were Ameraucanas before the APA set guidelines for the breed. I know that doesn't make sense, but she knows what I'm saying

Well, that pretty much sums it up, SC... lol... actually, Jerry explains it best...