Anybody know about Greenfire Lavender Orpington eggs? $25-$30/egg?

[momma-hen]

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I hope not! I just got BCM eggs from him. They are quite dark. Should I check for brown paint?

The pullets we, I mean she, has from their eggs do lay quite nice dark eggs, but they are garbage Marans. Nearly all black.

If I have the same luck as your ex, perhaps I can use them to darken the eggs of some better birds. ...or we'll be eating some pricey eggs.....more than usual

 

[onthespot]

Nearly all black marans is not neccesarily garbage. If they are close to the breed standard in other ways, and lay nice dark eggs, you just need to cross them on a rooster with more copper showing, but not too much.

The eggs being acutioned on ebay, well, that is just people setting their own prices. The seller is just letting them run for it. Some people are highly motivated to buy eggs early in the season so they will have their own eggs to hatch before fall and they can get busy on their projects. MOST people right now, including me, have stock that is only a couple of generations removed from hinkjc poultry and have not had time to "improve" it yet. Don't knock the seller because people bid high. It is a game, and some people want in the game pretty bad right now is all.

Post like these can just really damage a person's business they have spent quite a bit of effort to build up over the past few years, or LOT o years and I feel like it is just a gang fest mentality here sometiems when eggs sell high. No one is putting a gun to their heads to buy eggs. I would like very much to hatch more of my lavender orp eggs, but people keep PMing me for more eggs and I price them CRAZY, hoping they will not buy the eggs, but they keep getting sold and I can't even fill the orders for the rest of this week. Am I a bad person for selling eggs high? No. Is the buyer stupid for paying a lot. I don't think so. Some of the buyers actually want the birds for "project starters" for even more diverse projects, like lavender laced or barred orps or wyandottes, isabel turkens, lavender marans, you name it. (Sorry, hope I didn't "out" someone's secret project here.) Just using the above as an example of why someone might want/need their eggs NOW as opposed to wait for later for the price to come down. For some people an extra hundred dollars now could save them many hundreds in the fall if they can just hatch out another generation before winter hits.

 

[lildinkem]

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EBAY can be very misleading! One seller last early July was selling Blue Orp eggs and had as the pic, an ENGLISH BREEDER'S BIRD'S PIC, that this seller pirated from the ENGLISH breeder's website. This seller NEVER had ANY birds eggs from that ENGLISH breeder. Thus, by not saying this bird in the pic is NOT hers, you would guess that is infact that is the sellers bird. IT WAS NOT!
Before you go laying out $300, do yourself a favor and write the seller. Ask him/her where their lines originated? How many generations removed are the parents birds of this egg auction? There are many people who will say they have imported lines, only to find out they have been breeding since the 90's & have no idea what to cull for, and they ruined the line they brought in.
I remember reading about someone who is STILL selling off the breeders name and he had got his birds from for17 years. To me one can no longer use another breeders name after the 2nd generation UNLESS that breeder gives permission to do so. So do write and ask. No one ever gets mad at those questions. IF they do, you do not want their eggs anyway.

AND ASK FOR MORE PICS!!

 

[scbatz33]

Totally unimpressed with that roo.

Oh, and I love this line......"Greenfire Farms is offering these lavender orpington eggs to discriminating buyers who want to raise stunning and rare tinted egg layers."

As if you order from anyone else you're not "discriminating"? And are they saying the birds are "rare tinted" or that the birds lay "rare tinted" eggs?

I've bought very nice hatching eggs from several places on Ebay. Some of whom I am buying privately from again this year. I wouldn't buy these eggs without tons of photos of the other birds in the flock. And, maybe not even then. IMO, the bird they are using to "sell" the eggs is not worth the price the auction is currently at

 

[LarryPQ]

. Is the buyer stupid for paying a lot. I don't think so. Some of the buyers actually want the birds for "project starters" for even more diverse projects,

For some people an extra hundred dollars now could save them many hundreds in the fall if they can just hatch out another generation before winter hits.

My name is Laree, and I am a happy sucker. I more than willing to pay a little more to get what I want, (when I want it as mentioned above)--and if I cannot afford it I won't buy it.

Good for the sellers for letting basic economics dictate their price! So long as they do not misrepresent their product (buyer beware, always) good for them. Go capitalism!​

 

[lildinkem]

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That is a ROO?
IF they can't get a better pic, your better off buyer a breeding pair that you can SEE a PIC of. Then you know what your getting.


OLD SAYINGS, usually say it ALL!
Buyer BEWARE!
PICTURE SAYS A 1,000 WORDS!

 

[Cowgirlgrace]

I am interested in the breed and saved his auction to Favorites thinking I'd like to bid but when it got to a certain point I backed off and also because, Onthespot, I did try to get info from him on his program and he doesn't seem to want to share much. I did get another email but besides saying he got them from a guy in Georgia he just said it is a US program. I agree if people want things really bad they may be willing to pay any price to get them for whatever reason. I just thought that since they were going for so much money they must be from a wonderful breeder doing wonderful things with these birds. If they are not willing to provide info on their actual program it doesn't seem there is much to brag about. I was able to get some splits that originated with the Hinkjc so I'll start from there. Not sure I would pay $300 for 10 eggs ever but if it was a great program with great birds and genetic diversity to boot I would certainly be drooling over them but can't drool if I don't know anything.

I also agree a thread like this can be damaging and I don't want to do that. I don't think anyone else wants to do that either but sounds like they are frustrated. It is easier to talk about frustration because people need to vent but wondering if anyone has some good things to say? I put my question out there because since I couldn't get much out of Greenfire I thought someone else might know something about the program.

 

[lildinkem]

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Sounds like for $300 some damage has been done. lolol I just want to point out how to research before you buy. Last spring I was too afraid to ask dumb questions to these sellers. Got burned, and learned.

 

[Elite Silkies]

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I agree that post like these can damage a seller's reputation quite fast. I bought my pair of Coronation Split Sussex from Blue Poultry whom bought his stock from Green Fire Farms and his birds are gorgeous and so are mine.

Lavender is a project and everyone is working hard and they are expensive. I needed a Lavender Roo to start my Lavender Australorp Project. I won't mention how much money I have in one Roo, but I got what I wanted. I hatched 8 our of 16 and one survived. Was it worth, you betcha...... because that is what I needed.

So, if you want to spend that much money, then do it. It's a matter for choice. If I could I sell my eggs for $300 a dozen would I do it? Shoot yeah!!!

 

[pips&peeps]

What I don't get is the coronation sussex bit. Yeah, he paid alot to get them imported, but they are not show quality here in the US. They won't be until the get breeder club gets them approved, so why are all these people who have them now advertising them as show quality????

I have never seen an advertisement by people who are selling lavender orpingtons and lavender ameraucanas as show quality........