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anyone feels bad for eating their chickens?
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I'm totally fine with eating my birds and rabbits, but I admit I like to give them some time at freezer camp in anonymous bags.
Then it's a matter of "what" we're having for dinner, not "who".
Bryan
Then it's a matter of "what" we're having for dinner, not "who".
Bryan
- May 13, 2010
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Ya'll are all talking like if you had to choose between meat from factories or meat from your backyard, the truth meat isn't good for our bodies or the envirement. Why do you act like meat is somthing you have to have when really it's just a selfish, brutal, and unatural gorging of other being's flesh?
No I do not feel bad about it. I may never eat one of our laying hens, but I have eaten roosters. The roosters I have eaten were aggressive and not good around my kids. I did not feel comfortable pawning my problem off on someone else, but they had to go. The only alternative was to dispatch them. I would feel guilty had I killed them and not made use of them. Honestly, I feel a bit bad that we've had our fill and there are left overs still in fridge.
Why do we as humans always try to find something wrong with other people, even if it is how they think?
The original poster had a visitor who wanted to believe there was something lacking in the OP's emotional well being. She could eat an animal she raised without concern, and the visitor thought she "should" not be able to do that. There was something wrong with her if she could.
Yes, moral relativism, and our own morals are always better than anyone else's. In an ideal world everyone would think like ME!
I feel there is an implied "domestic animal contract".
It requires I keep the animals comfortable, fed, watered, protected from predators, health issues dealt with, trained humanely, affection and grooming as appropriate, bred for health and happy living (I am not fond of creating domestic animals with ungainly bodies or poor internal workings because they are fashionable or simply because we can), that their end's be swift and as humane as possible when the time comes. In return for this effort on my side (filling waterers when it is -40F, don't think there is no effort!), I may use their companionship, skills, milk, eggs, meat, hides, feathers, etc. as I see fit.
I would agree we too often do not fulfill the human side of the domestic animal contract. However, where we -have- met our side, I feel no guilt in collecting what is due.
I applaud vegetarians and try to "approach vegetarianism" myself, but I personally believe the small farm model where animals are an integral part of the plan has worked a very long time. This plan includes limited meat intake, as the animals are too valuable as living workers on the farm (supplying soil fertilizer if nothing else) to be eaten regularly.
The original poster had a visitor who wanted to believe there was something lacking in the OP's emotional well being. She could eat an animal she raised without concern, and the visitor thought she "should" not be able to do that. There was something wrong with her if she could.
Yes, moral relativism, and our own morals are always better than anyone else's. In an ideal world everyone would think like ME!
I feel there is an implied "domestic animal contract".
It requires I keep the animals comfortable, fed, watered, protected from predators, health issues dealt with, trained humanely, affection and grooming as appropriate, bred for health and happy living (I am not fond of creating domestic animals with ungainly bodies or poor internal workings because they are fashionable or simply because we can), that their end's be swift and as humane as possible when the time comes. In return for this effort on my side (filling waterers when it is -40F, don't think there is no effort!), I may use their companionship, skills, milk, eggs, meat, hides, feathers, etc. as I see fit.
I would agree we too often do not fulfill the human side of the domestic animal contract. However, where we -have- met our side, I feel no guilt in collecting what is due.
I applaud vegetarians and try to "approach vegetarianism" myself, but I personally believe the small farm model where animals are an integral part of the plan has worked a very long time. This plan includes limited meat intake, as the animals are too valuable as living workers on the farm (supplying soil fertilizer if nothing else) to be eaten regularly.
When you think about it, meat is the best thing that ever happened to our livestock animals, evolutionarily speaking. And some people have philosophized that they have had an equal role in their domestication as we have. How many species out there are barely hanging on by a thread, because of predation and limited resources? But when an animal is useful to us for something (meat, milk, eggs, work, protection), we trade it protection, food, and a comfortable existence for those things. I mean, how many people would choose to support and selectively breed whole herds of cattle for their best traits, improving the species with each breeding, if they didn't get milk and meat and leather from it? Without domestication, which was mostly for meat, cows would probably have died out long ago from predation. Same thing goes for all kinds of other tasty animals who are not very well suited to protecting themselves against predators. Smart animals that want a shot at continuing their species choose domestication. The deal goes bad when we don't live up to our end of the bargain: keeping them comfortable and happy. So if you keep your animals comfortable and happy, eat them. You are living up to your end of the domestication bargain.
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Enjoy your tofu turkey this Thanksgiving ................ my familly of selfish , brutal , and unatural gorging omnivores will give the thanks for the bird we take as nourishment .
Enjoy your tofu turkey this Thanksgiving ................ my familly of selfish , brutal , and unatural gorging omnivores will give the thanks for the bird we take as nourishment .
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and MEAT BIRDS ETC [ just in case you didn't know which section you were posting in
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Enjoy your tofu turkey this Thanksgiving ................ my familly of selfish , brutal , and unatural gorging omnivores will give the thanks for the bird we take as nourishment .
Amen to this!!
Enjoy your tofu turkey this Thanksgiving ................ my familly of selfish , brutal , and unatural gorging omnivores will give the thanks for the bird we take as nourishment .
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Humans are omnivores are they not? And its not brutal, the bird is not beaten to death, or torchered or anything like that.
Humans are omnivores are they not? And its not brutal, the bird is not beaten to death, or torchered or anything like that.
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and MEAT BIRDS ETC [ just in case you didn't know which section you were posting in
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Enjoy your tofu turkey this Thanksgiving ................ my familly of selfish , brutal , and unatural gorging omnivores will give the thanks for the bird we take as nourishment .
Amen to this!!
ya!
Enjoy your tofu turkey this Thanksgiving ................ my familly of selfish , brutal , and unatural gorging omnivores will give the thanks for the bird we take as nourishment .
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