Arizona Chickens

[Smiles-N-Sunshine]

I see some of y'all meet for coffee on weekends..... any interest in meeting for a butchering party? Or is that too "ewwww" ?

 

[LarryPQ]

I've had a butchering party with a few peeps. Never more than one person at a time. Some of us TRY to get together, but it is hard to co-ordinate, especially when I have the kids.

 

[mclevinson]

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Not too ewww for me. I have a non-producer and an opportunistic egg eater. Hope they are one and the same! So YOU know how to process or do we have to bribe someone.

 

[5pinkarrows]

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Vaccines will not cause chemicals to be present in the eggs. The vaccine should leave NO chemical trace in the chicken after 48 hours or so. The vaccines themselves are not chemically based--at least in the way you are thinking--and the solution they are suspended in is (basically) salt water.

http://www.greerlabs.com/index.php/human_allergy/products/sdsev/sterile_diluents/

Whaaaaaat??? They put formaldehyde in human vaccines, but saline in the ones for poultry? There is something so not right about that. Next you are going to tell me that none of the chicken vax were developed on the cell lines of aborted babies like some of the human ones. I mean chicken pox was developed on an aborted baby, so chicken vax would be too, right? JK. Oh well, thanks for the info. Now I need to figure out how to vaccinate. I hate to buy 1,000 doses for 16 chickens.

 

[LarryPQ]

*giggles*

You mean an EGG?

 

[ca]

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It all sounds great unless your the Guy in the relationship. We don't have the advantage you ladies have. We can't just smile and bat those beautiful eye and say "Dear, you know What I really need you to build me". LOL yes, after 18 years of marriage she still has me wrapped around her finger. LOL

Oh no, that's no how it works in my case (I know, I am lucky, and no - he is not for sale or rent!). He did all the research and figured out that there even is such a thing as a chicken plucker. And he is bugging me to get the motor so he can drop everything else and get started on this new and exciting project. No batting eyes required

. We are actually both into building "things". That's why we are called "Widget Creek Ranch"

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[LarryPQ]

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I am posting this just because you made me GOOGLE it.

Why is formaldehyde in some vaccines?
Formaldehyde has a long history of use in the manufacture of certain viral and bacterial vaccines. It is used to inactivate viruses (e.g., influenza, polio) and to detoxify bacterial toxins, such as the toxin used to make diphtheria vaccine. Formaldehyde is diluted during the manufacturing process, but residual quantities of formaldehyde may be found in some current vaccines. The average quantity of formaldehyde to which a young infant could be exposed to at one time through vaccines is very small and is considered to be safe. Although high concentrations of formaldehyde can damage DNA (the building block of genes) and cause cancerous changes in cells in the laboratory, formaldehyde is an essential component in human metabolism and is required for the synthesis of DNA and amino acids (the building blocks of protein). Therefore, all humans have detectable quantities of natural formaldehyde in their circulation. In addition, quantities of formaldehyde at least 600-fold greater than that contained in vaccines have been found to be safe in animals.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/ucm187810.htm

Vaccines from fetuses

However, this is, apparently, founded in some sort of fact:
"In weighing how to handle the issue, Georgetown looked to the debate of a decade ago, when many Catholics became aware that cells from an aborted fetus were used to originate cultures used to manufacture chicken pox vaccine and measles-mumps-rubella vaccine. Since then, a measles-mumps-rubella vaccine has been developed without cells from an aborted fetus, but the chicken pox vaccine is still made with the same cell line. "

I.E., an aborted fetus' cell line was used to develop the vaccine in the first place.

That is: they do not use NEW aborted tissue to produce the chickenpox vaccine.

Human Fetal Diploid Cells

Human diploid cells are batches of human cells that are grown in a laboratory. Unlike cancer cells, they have the same number of chromosomes as normal human cells.

Certain diploid cell strains are valuable in vaccine manufacture because these cells can be used for a very long period of time in the laboratory and are a reliable means by which many viruses that infect humans can be successfully and easily grown. Vaccines prepared in human diploid cells have proven to be very safe over the past several decades.

Two different strains of human diploid cell cultures made from fetuses have been used extensively for vaccine production for decades. One was developed in the United States in 1961 (called WI-38) and the other in the United Kingdom in 1966 (called MRC-5).

WI-38 came from lung cells from a female fetus of 3-months gestation and MRC-5 was developed from lung cells from a 14-week-old male fetus. Both fetuses were intentionally aborted, but neither was aborted for the purpose of obtaining diploid cells.123. The fetal tissues that eventually became WI-38 and the MRC-5 cell cultures were removed from fetuses that were dead. The cellular biologists who made the cell cultures did not induce the abortions.
These two cell strains have been growing under laboratory conditions for more than 35 years. The cells are merely the biological system in which the viruses are grown. The cells reproduce themselves, so there is no need to abort additional fetuses to sustain the culture supply. Viruses are collected from the diploid cell cultures and then processed further to produce the vaccine itself.

My moral ethics aside (which I will not discuss because of BYC rules): I like the idea these two lost babies have saved countless lives.


http://www.immunizationinfo.org/issues/vaccine-components/human-fetal-links-some-vaccines​

 

[turkeybreeder]

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Thank you i will use periods and commas so its easier to understand
how is your weekend going so far we are getting ready to go to
my brothers house in peoria

You have an interesting sense of humor you make me laugh how did it go visiting your brother's house in peoria i have never been there i guess it is in az so it cant be too different from me it would be nice to go someday

It was a little scary my little cousin that is 10 years old almost drown when one of my brother's that is a year older
than me thought it was funny to push him in the pool with out knowing our cousin does not know how to swim
my brother had drank a couple of beers that is why my mom said they should not have alcohol at any family gatherings

 

[pimachickens]

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I would be interested in learning. I don't have any to process, but could help others.

 

[turkeybreeder]

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we made 14 dozens to take to the party but they had carne asada at the party
so the people only ate a dozen of tamales we though my brothers
wife family was going to go but they had to work so we gave some to the family
but still had 2 1/2 dozens of the sweet left we are going to have to freeze
them so they can be ready when we have guest or family visit
my step niece was happy her sisters gradma had taken tamales
the sweet ones are her favorite