Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[vehve]

Lol, we forget our resident Finn.

Don't worry, I'll keep reminding you of my existence

Actually, the sun is shining at the moment. It's not that nice outside though, it's very windy today. But perhaps we will see spring arriving soon. I have some tulips in the front yard, they broke through the ground about a month ago when we had a week of warmer weather, but after that they've just been on hold and still haven't started flowering. We had some snow again on Saturday, but it melted away on Sunday. Now it's supposed to warm up a bit, and the cloud cover should be getting some holes in it too, but it still feels like the weather will never warm up.

Your just in case antibiotics are making me cringe again... I hope you guys will never find yourself being in need of the antibiotics you use on your chickens.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Don't worry, I'll keep reminding you of my existence   Actually, the sun is shining at the moment. It's not that nice outside though, it's very windy today. But perhaps we will see spring arriving soon. I have some tulips in the front yard, they broke through the ground about a month ago when we had a week of warmer weather, but after that they've just been on hold and still haven't started flowering. We had some snow again on Saturday, but it melted away on Sunday. Now it's supposed to warm up a bit, and the cloud cover should be getting some holes in it too, but it still feels like the weather will never warm up.

Your just in case antibiotics are making me cringe again... I hope you guys will never find yourself being in need of the antibiotics you use on your chickens.

Lol, baytril has been used in the beef, pork and chicken industries for years. Whilst it has been banned by the FDA in the U.S (for fear of its secondary effect on humans ) there are many discussions on here about how and where to get it. The use of a topical antibiotic wound care like terramycin is but a ' drop in the ocean ' . I might add that terramycin is used widely in the beef industry for pink eye.

 

[vehve]

Fancy, those drops build up to form an ocean. Finland is a country were antibiotic use has been very regulated for a long time. You can't get antibiotics for any use without a prescription, be it for an animal or person. But still, there are areas where the normal treatments for certain livestock ailments don't work because of resistance to antibiotics (I only know about the animal side in this case). For too long the old school vets have been prescribing broad spectrum antibiotics with instructions to treat only as long as the animals show symptoms. Luckily, it's becoming more and more common to first do a culture to see what antibiotic to use.

 

[vehve]

But I sense that I'm bringing down the mood discussing such dark things, so here are some bunny videos to cheer you up instead.

We should be getting some baby bunnies any day now.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Fancy, those drops build up to form an ocean. Finland is a country were antibiotic use has been very regulated for a long time. You can't get antibiotics for any use without a prescription, be it for an animal or person. But still, there are areas where the normal treatments for certain livestock ailments don't work because of resistance to antibiotics (I only know about the animal side in this case). For too long the old school vets have been prescribing broad spectrum antibiotics with instructions to treat only as long as the animals show symptoms. Luckily, it's becoming more and more common to first do a culture to see what antibiotic to use.

Yes I completely understand your concern, but my point is that the antibiotics are in our food chain whether we like it or not. Believe me, you are preaching to the converted here. I have VRE and through no fault of my own . The only way you could be certain that you weren't consuming growth hormones or antibiotics would be to grow and eat all of your own food. That's no take out or restaurants included.

 

[tandykins]

Try a can of tuna...mine loooove tuna and I can mix all kinds of helpful, less appealing, things in it with them none-the-wiser!

All this talk has me pushing the "yard first aid kit" up the to-do list. Trying to find Australian brands of things other threads have recommended is challenging. I have the basics: gloves, syringes, betadine, bandages and gauzes, saline....but I am looking at more specific items that have a moderately long shelf life and are poultry-safe.

I found this which looks promising as an all rounder wound care...https://www.lealean.com.au/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/28/products_id/1369

Still looking for an electrolyte, antibiotic cream, and any other handy bits that I may need in a hurry. We are not close to any stores which would stock these things and we have no vet so... best be prepared!

I ordered my antibiotic cream from the US and got it within a week. It was about $7 for the tube shipped from eBay.

You can make your own electrolyte solution using:

1 litre water
8 level teaspoons cane sugar
1/2 level teaspoon table salt

This is the homemade electrolyte solution suggested by the NIH for home use.

Chooks can be pretty dumb for smart critters, my guess is that the SLW has bruised a drumstick

and the empty crop should be fed with something hard to resist like a mash of warm bran or the like. Even a rice and sardine will get them feeding. Recovery from injury rests on being able to use existing body resources, if its not feeding my thoughts go to getting that process working first and not to treating " could be " stuff,

Cheers,

Andrew

After last night I couldn't get her to take any fluids or eat anything at all (including tuna, rice, sardines and mealworms), she just dozed off every time I tried to feed her. She deteriorated quite rapidly this morning and I found her lying on her side and shivering at about 10am. I made the decision to put her down and we wrapped her body in cotton and cremated her rapidly just in case the cause of death was highly infectious. I would have liked to have a necropsy done but I couldn't find any resources for one locally.

Afterward I cleaned and disinfected everything she'd touched and washed all of the clothes I'd worn while dealing with her.

My husband and I spent the rest of the afternoon chasing chickens around and worming them. We weighed each chicken and gave them an appropriate doze of praziquantel. I'll get something else to use next time but that was what I had right now and I wanted to treat them all immediately.

And now I am very tired. :/

 

[Fancychooklady]

But I sense that I'm bringing down the mood discussing such dark things, so here are some bunny videos to cheer you up instead. We should be getting some baby bunnies any day now.

That belly fluff is so cute but I'm guessing it's not so nice between your teeth.

 

[Fancychooklady]

I ordered my antibiotic cream from the US and got it within a week.  It was about $7 for the tube shipped from eBay.

You can make your own electrolyte solution using:

1 litre water
8 level teaspoons cane sugar
1/2 level teaspoon table salt

This is the homemade electrolyte solution suggested by the NIH for home use.


After last night I couldn't get her to take any fluids or eat anything at all (including tuna, rice, sardines and mealworms), she just dozed off every time I tried to feed her.  She deteriorated quite rapidly this morning and I found her lying on her side and shivering at about 10am.  I made the decision to put her down and we wrapped her body in cotton and cremated her rapidly just in case the cause of death was highly infectious.  I would have liked to have a necropsy done but I couldn't find any resources for one locally.  

Afterward I cleaned and disinfected everything she'd touched and washed all of the clothes I'd worn while dealing with her. 

My husband and I spent the rest of the afternoon chasing chickens around and worming them.  We weighed each chicken and gave them an appropriate doze of [COLOR=333333]praziquantel.  I'll get something else to use next time but that was what I had right now and I wanted to treat them all immediately.  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]And now I am very tired.  :/[/COLOR]

Oh that's sad, sorry for your loss.

 

[vehve]

Fancy, that's why I try to mainly buy domestic meat. Growth hormones are banned in Europe, and Finland uses a lot less antibiotics in livestock than the rest of Europe. I think we're at about one sixth of the average use.

 

[vehve]

Tandy, sorry for your loss. I'm glad you reached a decision quickly though, not prolonging her suffering.