Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

[KPenley]

Her double blue lacing is actually very good. I have had terrible luck photographing it though.

Oh, ok! She's probably a much better bird than it appears. Pictures are hard to examine and harder to take sometimes! Maybe if you could get one of her standing? If you're looking for feedback on type, etc?

 

[FoxholeFarm]

Here's one where you can see her pattern better. I will bring out treats to see if I can get a good standing photo!

 

[FoxholeFarm]

And a side view! Success!

 

[tls_ranch]

Here's one where you can see her pattern better. I will bring out treats to see if I can get a good standing photo!

She has too much red overall and could be missing some melanizers. If you breed her, you might want to try crossing her with a standard ( black double laced) male. I would use a darker male without too much red in the saddle, hackles.

Trisha

 

[FoxholeFarm]

She has too much red overall and could be missing some melanizers. If you breed her, you might want to try crossing her with a standard ( black double laced) male. I would use a darker male without too much red in the saddle, hackles.

Trisha

Thanks for the tip! I'm probably not going to breed her as I have mille fleur duccle and mottled cochin projects starting already. I was just wonder if I got what I paid for with her and it sounds like I paid too much($40 pullet) considering I've paid half that for show quality birds in other breeds.

 

[Happy Chooks]

Quote: Too much red and I can't see her lacing.

My blues looked like this, though I don't have any blue hens right now. (still have a blue cock bird) This was a pretty young pullet, so her lacing was still coming in.

 

[FoxholeFarm]

I see what you mean. Her shape is still pretty typically barne though so I think its just that her lacing is darker than yours.

Beautiful hen by the way!

 

[FoxholeFarm]

I just found out that she actually came from your lines @tls_ranch . I don't know more than that - whether she was bought as egg, chick or pullet or bred from stock purchased from you.

 

[tls_ranch]

I just found out that she actually came from your lines @tls_ranch
. I don't know more than that - whether she was bought as egg, chick or pullet or bred from stock purchased from you.   

I don't know either. There are blue barnies from me and others here in Ca. But, sorry, that hen would be a cull in my flock. She's a pretty, fancy colored layer, but too red. The blue gene is tricky to work with when trying to get good double lacing. I keep only a handful of blues each year out of all that I hatch. It takes constant selection of only the best. There will be " pet quality" birds. The " culls " I hatch are given away as pets, sold for less than most hatchery birds are sold for or just eaten. I wouldn't sell my show quality or breeder birds for $100s of dollars. Not that I think all my breeders are perfect, but because it took so much work to just to get birds with the qualities I want. It is a constant process of trying to breed for improvement in the next generation.

It can be quite frustrating when two "perfect animals" may even produce nothing but culls.

Trisha

 

[FoxholeFarm]

I don't know either. There are blue barnies from me and others here in Ca. But, sorry, that hen would be a cull in my flock. She's a pretty, fancy colored layer, but too red. The blue gene is tricky to work with when trying to get good double lacing. I keep only a handful of blues each year out of all that I hatch. It takes constant selection of only the best. There will be " pet quality" birds. The " culls " I hatch are given away as pets, sold for less than most hatchery birds are sold for or just eaten. I wouldn't sell my show quality or breeder birds for $100s of dollars. Not that I think all my breeders are perfect, but because it took so much work to just to get birds with the qualities I want. It is a constant process of trying to breed for improvement in the next generation.

It can be quite frustrating when two "perfect animals" may even produce nothing but culls.

Trisha

I certainly understand. I didn't get what I paid for with this bird in any way. She isn't even laying much at all.

She is still pretty though, and exceptionally mellow, so she fits right in with the ornamental portion of my flock. Except she's three times as big because the other ornamentals are all bantams! Lol! Good things she doesn't bully them at all.