Best English Orpington cockerel for breeding?

[GermanKennhuhn]

What do y’all think?
1.

He has some gold one his wings, so I’m not sure what color he’d be considered.
2.

Is the barring fine?
3.

He has poor quality feathers on his tail.

3 of the pullets are Lavender, and one looks like a really light Lavender. I’m not sure what color that’d be considered.
Also, if a Lavender got bred to another Lavender, what color variations would I get?

Thanks in advance!

 

[chickenlittle21]

3 is a lavender orpington and 2 sort of looks like a chocolate silver laced orpington mixed with either an English or a lavender. 1 is the only pure English orpington

 

[GermanKennhuhn]

Really? I thought it was color variations. I guess I have a lot to learn.

 

[GermanKennhuhn]

Thanks for replying!

 

[chickenlittle21]

On second thought, 2 might be mixed with chocolate cuckoo orpington

 

[chickenlittle21]

https://www.thehappychickencoop.com/orpington-all-you-need-to-know-personality-and-egg-color/

 

[Trish1974]

Let them finish maturing before you make that call.
Three times now I have sold the wrong cockerel thinking they were mature enough to make that judgment call. I keep in contact with my purchasers, so when they sent me updated pictures I could have kicked myself... THREE times!

 

[Painted Calls]

What do you see here for color @The Moonshiner?

 

[ChickForLife]

I like 3 the best but if you want pure English Orpingtons I say 1.

 

[The Moonshiner]

I agree with Trish. Orpingtons are slow to mature and wait longer before making a decision.
Lavender to Lavender will produce 100% Lavender.
What is your goal for breeding?
Idk agree with any of the English Orp talk. There's really no "Pure English" an Orp is an Orp but the English have a different SOP then the US so its just a matter of which SOP theyre breed to. Those look more English type. But not great quality English type. Or at least 1 and 3. 2 doesn't look real good for either standard. Looks off for an Orp. Barring is not very good and Idk what color he even is. Looks lavender but lavender should be an even shade throughout. He's darker on the top like a blue cockerel would be. What color is he supposed to be?
1 or 3 are both gonna be issue birds. 1 has some poor quality feathering and that color bleed will breed forward. Worse thing will be that the pullets won't show it but will pass it on so it is a bit of a pain to breed out.
3 has real feather quality issues and that can also be a pain to breed out.
Ive work with both issues and id take the poor feather quality over the color bleed. It will be a lot of work though.