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I just hatched a blond chick in the middle of the black and white chicks! What does that mean?
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You hatched a Wheaten sport- or Recessive White (derivative of Wheaten) has shown up- both are indicative that the varieties in these particular parents are mixed... and will always have color issues. That means (for sure) both sets of eWH genes were present in both parents for a sport to show up.
 
No, it's not coloring issues resulting from a blue-black-splash mating. It is just a leftover gene or will show up again as a white feather possibly. People are on the fence about this issue.

You will only want to keep this male in blue-black-splash matings- no pure black Copper matings, as he would carry in unwanted color issues into Black Coppers. The breeder was using the black male to darker the hue of her blues so they weren't washed out.
Ah - so interesting. If I breed this boy it will just be for my own "barnyard mix" babies. I've got another Copper Marans egg in the incubator, but if its a pullet it would be his sister or half sister, so I wouldn't hatch eggs from her if I keep Patrick as my flock papa.

Patrick has the short toe as well as the white feathering. Are you saying those traits are related, or independent signs of a the recessive feathered change gene?

Your white-speckled hen is gorgeous!
 
Ah - so interesting. If I breed this boy it will just be for my own "barnyard mix" babies. I've got another Copper Marans egg in the incubator, but if its a pullet it would be his sister or half sister, so I wouldn't hatch eggs from her if I keep Patrick as my flock papa.

Patrick has the short toe as well as the white feathering. Are you saying those traits are related, or independent signs of a the recessive feathered change gene?

Your white-speckled hen is gorgeous!

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The white lacing is its own issue- unrelated to everything else. This hen was not barred or come from barring- she was the only one from that pairing like that.

Ideally, it would be better for your own home breedings if you had another black copper as your flock master. In case you ever gave away birds any, or they got somehow into a breeder's hands or back into circulation, they wouldn't add to the Marans gene pool problems. I know that seems impossible, but, some breeders will breed very poor genetics just to make a quick buck if the eggs are dark enough. Not inferring that this would happen here by any means. But, it has happened to others and this is one of the reasons why there are a lot of issues to clear out of Marans.

Patrick carries the toe mutation, then, he should never be used for breeding- even in a home flock situation. You never want to use a known gene that involves taking away body parts.
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You will experience constant feet issues, and they will all carry the genes to pass it on worse too- it would soon become a mess.
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Hi,

It's hard to say exactly what will be expressed this time. It could be mossiness (watch especially on wings, and tail), brown fluff, copper leakage, white feathers or down, straw hackles, etc. It would be interesting to find out what it will do on her. Make sure the duck doesn't take her swimming!
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she looks like bc/wheaten cross. she already has some wheaten on her wings and the spot on her head now is wheaten too.

one day I let duck have a bath and I kept the chick in my hands. she suddenly jumped out, ran and jumped into the plastic dish with water than started to swim! luckily I was there and it was really hot that day. I grabbed her and brought in the house and dried her with the hairdrier.

the other 2 chicks hatched by hen look perfect bcm so far. my cockerel probably is bc/wheaten marans cross and the hen looks like pure bcm. is there chance that the other 2 chicks are pure bcm?
 
tworockchicken

The white lacing is its own issue- unrelated to everything else. This hen was not barred or come from barring- she was the only one from that pairing like that.

Ideally, it would be better for your own home breedings if you had another black copper as your flock master. In case you ever gave away birds any, or they got somehow into a breeder's hands or back into circulation, they wouldn't add to the Marans gene pool problems. I know that seems impossible, but, some breeders will breed very poor genetics just to make a quick buck if the eggs are dark enough. Not inferring that this would happen here by any means. But, it has happened to others and this is one of the reasons why there are a lot of issues to clear out of Marans.

Patrick carries the toe mutation, then, he should never be used for breeding- even in a home flock situation. You never want to use a known gene that involves taking away body parts.
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You will experience constant feet issues, and they will all carry the genes to pass it on worse too- it would soon become a mess.
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Ah! Thanks @One Chick Two . Really good to know that about Patrick's funny toes. I definitely don't want to contribute to gene pool problems!

I have five more eggs in the incubator, so will most likely have a little selection of roos to choose my flockmaster from. I will make sure to choose carefully and to reach out for advice!
 

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