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Blue Slate Turkeys.

Discussion in 'Turkeys' started by Kennyog, Dec 20, 2009.

  1. Professional

    Professional Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:well, technically perhaps, but since there are different colors of Slate turkeys, it's fair to call the common ones Blue Slate to differentiate them from the less common lavender (self-blue).

    Slate is Slate, self blue is self blue, or as in Great Britain, simply, Blue. Continuing to add confusion by throwing lavender to the mix doesn't help anything. (But I know, lavender is such a pretty sounding name.) Then we have to get into the intricasies of the Standards, which indeed do include both Self Blue and Slate variants encompassed under the Slate description.
     
  2. eggchel

    eggchel Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    The terminology for the various blue colors is certainly confusing for many, even sticking with just the American vernacular.

    Is "Blue" for turkeys the same as in chickens, with two blue parents producing blue, black, or splash offspring?

    And, is "Self-blue", the same as in chickens, meaning that two blue parents produce only blue offspring?

    Where does "Slate" fit in? Does it correspond to any of the terminology for chicken color genetics? Blue, self-blue, gray?

    As for lavender, I am somewhat confused by this term. In chickens, as in turkeys, Ive seen self-blues described as lavender but in Muscovy ducks, those that Ive seen that were called lavender clearly had a beige/brown undertone to the lavender, and the lavender did not look at all like regular blue ducks (blue/black/splash genetics) or like the color of blue or self-blue chickens. I believe that lavender is actually produced by a cross between chocolate and blue ducks.
    Blue Muscovy drake on left. Sorry I dont have a picture showing the lavender color.
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    A few years ago, I purchased a trio of turkeys for my neighbor. They looked to be similar in color to
    Chickensouix's "blue-slate" toms but were somewhat lighter and did not have any splashes of darker feathers. Here is a picture:

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    Rare blue mini chicken: [​IMG] LOL
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    Please keep replies friendly and courteous. We are here to help each other with shared information not sarcasm.
     
  3. chickensioux

    chickensioux Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I NEED me a rare blue mini-chicken.......
     
  4. Kennyog

    Kennyog Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Eggchel,
    The picture of the turkey you posted is what i would call a self blue.
     
  5. ivan3

    ivan3 spurredon Premium Member

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    Porter has some pretty thorough info: http://www.porterturkeys.com/blueslateselfblue.htm

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    was our big `self blue' back in `07. Though it doesn't show up in the shot, he had irregularly placed, faded buff feathering in his retrices.

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    The differences between varieties is nearly as small as the actual breeding populations : http://ps.fass.org/cgi/content/full/86/1/46

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    has been some improvement in breeding numbers since the link below went up in `04, but the number of hatcheries providing heritage turks has decreased:

    http://heritageturkeyfoundation.org/resources/albc_2004_heritage_turkey_letter.htm
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2009
  6. purelypoultry

    purelypoultry Chillin' With My Peeps

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  7. bibliophile birds

    bibliophile birds Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:as far as i've been able to find out, the blues do breed the same. self-blue and lavender are usually the same, but i've seen some places where they were listed separately. slate = blue.


    A few years ago, I purchased a trio of turkeys for my neighbor. They looked to be similar in color to
    Chickensouix's "blue-slate" toms but were somewhat lighter and did not have any splashes of darker feathers.

    could they have been Lilacs? Lilacs are supposedly really rare, but the Feathersite pic looks a lot like what you posted. yours seem to have some of the reddish sheen in the tail feathers, which is what made me think Lilac.

    Lilac from feathersite.com
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  8. eggchel

    eggchel Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Beautiful turkeys, chickensioux and ivan3.

    ivan3.... thank you for the link to Porter's description of the differences between the blue colors. [​IMG]

    bibliophile birds.... wow, the feathersite lilac is pretty! I dont think that the one I gave my neighbor had any reddish sheen in R.L. Must be the photo.

    Kennyog..... I didnt know that I had so many questions about blue turkeys until I got here! [​IMG] Thanks for letting me drop in on your thread. My neighbor really liked his blue turkeys and Im sure he would recommend that you get a trio. [​IMG]
     
  9. MandyH

    MandyH You'll shoot your eye out!

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    Self blue hen with chicks

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    slate jakes

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    This is Thanksgiving, he needs a new home LOL!!!

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  10. Kennyog

    Kennyog Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ivan 3,those are two beautiful toms! Great picture! Thank you for sharing.
     

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