Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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Just how bad is whatever these wild birds might be carrying?

My birds free range, and are exposed to wild birds and ground that wild turkey has grazed. We have a healthy winter population of birds that were attracted by the Madrone berries in early in the season.

Building disease resistance is one reason I'm interested in breeding my own stock. I'm under the assumption that breeding the hardiest of my birds, that thrive on this particular piece of the earth, will build a flock of chickens with acceptable tolerances of native pathogens. Am I right?

I like to think my birds are bulletproof. But my feed bill isn't. I put out about 50 lbs a day spread over 20 pens. Many are open pens, and these birds can walk thru the fencing I use. I use livestock fencing mostly. During this cold spell that started here in Indy about 6 weeks ago I had only lost one bird due to the cold. And that is outta 150 or so birds.
I guess these birds bother me more then my birds. but I notice the numbers of these birds is in the hundreds. And some of my birds are just staying away from them and their feed. I guess I can go back to feeding them for a couple of hours in the morning then yank the feeders away for the later hours. I am getting hit in the later afternoon hours. It is wearing me out mostly cause of the weather. I know their a migratory birds but still, they need to move on. hopefully here the weather will FINALLY melt off some of the 4 inches of ice that has accumilated over the past 6 weeks and give these vultures somewhere else to go and haunt.

To answer your question more accurately, I know these birds are known to carry mites. I learned from my mom to use Boric Acid. Made from Borax for mites. It is so harmless mom use to use it on her White Persian Show cats. She used it in their ears and the eye ducts to keep them cleaned out and looking White and not pink or red running down their face. A very good way to rid mites is what she said. I like it better then Seven.
 
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That is a great looking flock. No skinny birds in that pic.

Walt

Walt I saw this picture of these Silver Pencilled and I think they are pretty good birds. When Ralph Sturegeon said Start Where you are With What you Have I think he was talking about a strain like this. Someone told the ladies they needed to cross white rocks or Dark Brahmas onto this line. I dont think so. I think just hammer away with the best birds they got in three years or so they will have some good over all type birds like our White Rocks and the color at least on the males will be super good. In five years this will be a great strain. Also as a bounus they are two partners one in Michigan and one in Calif that can share birds with and give each other new shots of vigor every three to five years.

I also liked the strain from Michigan from the get go. I wished I could say I saw Bob Murphys large fowl from Maine. I would love to compair these birds with his jsut never seen of Bobs birds befor. bob
 
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That is a great looking flock. No skinny birds in that pic.
Walt

Walt I saw this picture of these Silver Pencilled and I think they are pretty good birds. When Ralph Sturegeon said Start Where you are With What you Have I think he was talking about a strain like this. Someone told the ladies they needed to cross white rocks or Dark Brahmas onto this line. I dont think so. I think just hammer away with the best birds they got in three years or so they will have some good over all type birds like our White Rocks and the color at least on the males will be super good. In five years this will be a great strain. Also as a bounus they are two partners one in Michigan and one in Calif that can share birds with and give each other new shots of vigor every three to five years.
I also liked the strain from Michigan from the get go. I wished I could say I saw Bob Murphys large fowl from Maine. I would love to compair these birds with his jsut never seen of Bobs birds befor. bob

Bob, Wynette and I are so privileged to have you as our mentor. We are working on a plan this weekend, taking conformation shots of all our birds and moving forward with our stock.

We love this thread, it's filled with the great minds of poultry breeding and we are so excited to be apart of preserving this amazing variety. My bator will be filled soon...the girls just started laying again!
 
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Walt I saw this picture of these Silver Pencilled and I think they are pretty good birds. When Ralph Sturegeon said Start Where you are With What you Have I think he was talking about a strain like this. Someone told the ladies they needed to cross white rocks or Dark Brahmas onto this line. I dont think so. I think just hammer away with the best birds they got in three years or so they will have some good over all type birds like our White Rocks and the color at least on the males will be super good. In five years this will be a great strain. Also as a bounus they are two partners one in Michigan and one in Calif that can share birds with and give each other new shots of vigor every three to five years.
I also liked the strain from Michigan from the get go. I wished I could say I saw Bob Murphys large fowl from Maine. I would love to compair these birds with his jsut never seen of Bobs birds befor. bob

Bob, Wynette and I are so privileged to have you as our mentor. We are working on a plan this weekend, taking conformation shots of all our birds and moving forward with our stock.

We love this thread, it's filled with the great minds of poultry breeding and we are so excited to be apart of preserving this amazing variety. My bator will be filled soon...the girls just started laying again!

I had the pleasure of seeing Cheryl's two hens at the Stockton show a few weeks back. They looked on the small side next to the huge white rocks a couple of cages down (but everything in the barn looked small compared to those monsters! I think the Turkey breeders were getting nervous) but their coloring was so beautiful. Also, these two hens were very sweet, and several people commented on what excellent condition they were in.

On one hand, I think the gentleman recommending a white rock cross was trying to be very helpful. He did point out that the color would be lost for a few generations, but it would certainly be a jump forward on size as that was Cheryl's talking point that I heard (yes, I was totally eavesdropping on their convo.. heehee). On the other hand, I also agree with Bob and his point of working with what you've got. Anytime you bring in outside blood, you're bound to have issues. I have considered several breed crossings to get our Dominiques more true to standard, but it would take me many years to breed the faults out of them. This is the very reason we have so many flat-backed birds and birds with red in the feathers. Still... maybe in the future when I have more pens and time
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Anyway, I just think those silver penciled birds are so lovely! Maybe someday down the road I will work on Silver Penciled PR or even a Silver Penciled Dominique lol...
 
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Any of you folks looking for Large fowl Single Comb Light Brown or Rose Comb White or Light Brown Leghorns. I have located the Tommy Stanley line in both colors of the Rose Combs. The Single Comb Light Brown are Francis Leannah x Ray Berry. If you are interested e mail me.

Got to go, off to the swap in Hutchinson.

Good luck with the birds
Charlie
 
Need Help with Shipping Hatching Eggs


I have received two emails in the past week asking how a beginner can ship hatching eggs to a friend on this board. One lady wants to ship some silkie eggs and another wants to ship some call duck eggs.

I also, thought maybe if I post a old thread we talked about a few months ago maybe some of you have pictures on how you ship eggs that you could post and give these two members a idea how to do iit plus anyone else who may want to try or we just may find a new method better than the one we have been using in the past.

For me I am going to make sure the large end of the egg is up right in the box. I think there is less damage to the air cell if the egg is upright than on its side. You might save 25 percent more air cell damage this way. Also, I am going to try using saw dust which is a bag of shavings I buy at the feed store and filter the shavings into a five gallon bucket using rabbit wire as a filter. I think the eggs cushioned in this material works very well and it will also; absorb the broken egg liquid so it want got to the other eggs during rough shipping.

This year I am going to ship eggs in a two hole baby chick box just to see if the treatment is better vs. a regular cardboard box.
What Ideas do you have or new changes do you have for this year? Bob
 
Mille Fleur Leghorns - ok I'm probably going to beat up for posting on this thread because they are not heritage, but I'm really really really wanting a flock of these. Any ideas besides sandhill on where to obtain them?
 
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